The future of Reaktor

[XorXisT]

I don't know if this was posted before here or elsewhere.

Reaktor 6.5.0 will work a few more years on Mac OS :

https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... -Statement

[Sound Author]

I personally don't need Reaktor's entire UI completely re-done. Just enlarged primary panel controls alone would make very happy. It's ridiculous how absurdly small everything is. Obviously, you don't want to implement anything that changes old ensembles, but not having to hunch over and squint at an ultrawide 4K monitor would be nice.

[parma]

I don't know if this was posted before here or elsewhere.

Reaktor 6.5.0 will work a few more years on Mac OS :

https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... -Statement

"A few more years" is being generous to Apple. Next major update in 2026 could easily break compatibility. Even point updates could bork things.

[machinesworking]

I don't know if this was posted before here or elsewhere.

Reaktor 6.5.0 will work a few more years on Mac OS :

https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... -Statement

It should also be pointed out that you do not have to upgrade. Tahoe gets rid of the firewire driver at the OS level, I have a RME FF800 I replaced the power supply of last year that still works great on Sequoia, Apple have decided that in order to use Tahoe I need to replace this with a USB-C connected device because f**k firewire... my choice is to not deal with Tahoe,

[noiseboyuk]

Reaktor is a host. For me - and I suspect many - I have zero interest in ever dealing with the thing directly, I just know it as a host for a bunch of synths which I do have some interest in.

I hope they can make meaningful updates for my humble category of user, it sounds from what Evil Dragon is saying between the lines that this is not impossible.

[XorXisT]

I don't know if this was posted before here or elsewhere.

Reaktor 6.5.0 will work a few more years on Mac OS :

https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... -Statement

"A few more years" is being generous to Apple. Next major update in 2026 could easily break compatibility. Even point updates could bork things.

IIRC each version of macos have 3 years of support: release year + 2 more years of security updates.

That means if you stick with sequoia, you have security support until 2027.

If you upgrade to tahoe, you have security support until 2028.

That's the "a few years" I'm talking about.

Since NI stated reaktor 6 works with tahoe, I guess is safe to say we're good until 2028, if we stick with tahoe.

But as you said, things can go wrong. I've had a few issues with big sur, but from monterey to sequoia so far has been smooth sailing.

[XorXisT]

I don't know if this was posted before here or elsewhere.

Reaktor 6.5.0 will work a few more years on Mac OS :

https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... -Statement

It should also be pointed out that you do not have to upgrade. Tahoe gets rid of the firewire driver at the OS level, I have a RME FF800 I replaced the power supply of last year that still works great on Sequoia, Apple have decided that in order to use Tahoe I need to replace this with a USB-C connected device because f**k firewire... my choice is to not deal with Tahoe,

Yeah, that's useful information.

And let me be clear: I'm not advocating people to upgrade to tahoe. All I'm saying is that for those who want, for some reason, upgrade, you are good to go regarding reaktor 6.

Once massive x & komplete fx are compatible with tahoe, I'm upgrading my mbam1, because I use it like a music sketch pad, and testbench for everything, including plugin demos & os upgrades. My mac mini m4 will stay with sequoia until I really need to upgrade, for some reason (for example, new feature of logic pro that only works with tahoe).

[El°HYM]

PlugData is surely very interesting and does have a thriving, creative community. Still not really a new Reaktor for me, though. https://gumroad.com/discover?query=plugdata

I've honestly never used PlugData, and making Reaktor ensembles using low-level blocks is even beyond me, but where do you see the two products as differing? Is it the community related stuff? Ease of use? Integration with NKS or something?

Probably worthy of a separate thread, but if PlugData is being actively developed and Reaktor isn't, maybe it should be the future. But I'm not sure what the pros and cons are.

No worries, I love PlugData for being Linux alone. Will also surely hop on a separate thread about it. I just think that Reaktor is more ironed out so far, the ensembles seem a bit more reliable, more thought out. While PlugData stuff often seems more quickly rolled out, often still buggy and such. Both has advantages, creativity wise and I do have a handful PD gems me wouldnt like to miss. Same with Reaktor, offering even more due to its vast library and endless possibilities.

[Echoes in the Attic]

I don't know if this was posted before here or elsewhere.

Reaktor 6.5.0 will work a few more years on Mac OS :

https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... -Statement

It should also be pointed out that you do not have to upgrade. Tahoe gets rid of the firewire driver at the OS level, I have a RME FF800 I replaced the power supply of last year that still works great on Sequoia, Apple have decided that in order to use Tahoe I need to replace this with a USB-C connected device because f**k firewire... my choice is to not deal with Tahoe,

Yeah, that's useful information.

And let me be clear: I'm not advocating people to upgrade to tahoe. All I'm saying is that for those who want, for some reason, upgrade, you are good to go regarding reaktor 6.

Once massive x & komplete fx are compatible with tahoe, I'm upgrading my mbam1, because I use it like a music sketch pad, and testbench for everything, including plugin demos & os upgrades. My mac mini m4 will stay with sequoia until I really need to upgrade, for some reason (for example, new feature of logic pro that only works with tahoe).

I’m on Tahoe and massive x works fine. Komplete is fine too though I haven’t tried Komplete fix.

[vurt]

the future is reaktor.

[machinesworking]

Reaktor is a host. For me - and I suspect many - I have zero interest in ever dealing with the thing directly, I just know it as a host for a bunch of synths which I do have some interest in.

I hope they can make meaningful updates for my humble category of user, it sounds from what Evil Dragon is saying between the lines that this is not impossible.

Yeah, basically that the GUI for building is unlikely to be upgraded, but using the Komplete Kontrol building framework a "play" style interface can hide the ancient guts.

That's what I got from it, and at least a hacky resizability without changing the GUI for builders.

[jrwaltb]

Really stupid for them to just kill that tech.

TLDR: To NI or the bot that manages NI's public image. f**king give roadmaps on products like the one that made the company , Reaktor. Stop acting like anyone really gives a shit if you follow through or not or people cannot handle bad news. Everyone already knows you purge the forums, if you can't do it just say it and delete the idiots who get mad. Why would you keep Absynth a secret, why do you think secrecy is even an option at this point? The whole thing smells of insider sabotage or some BS which is fine but say you can't make changes. Done. Is the secrecy to keep people from complaining and the price of the bot deleting their forum post goes up?

One last fact that will be sent into oblivion: The Reaktor platform is so much more approachable with AI, just like M4L and Live has enabled people to start creating real tools. Reaktor is M4l but for all hosts and has DSP others do not some how. ugh

[El°HYM]

Abandoning Reaktor, would be similar to closing the doors of Tresor for the city NI is based in.

[nanostream]

We might be in the fortunate situation that Reaktor is so deeply embedded into NI‘s ecosystem — countless KK or Maschine presets based on Reaktor — that they can’t possibly kill it even if they would want to. As it happens, they indeed didn’t kill it.

Sure, Reaktor obviously isn’t NI’s number 1 priority. But the fact they ported it to Apple chips and and are at least toying around with ideas on how to move forward is giving me hope.

This whole Komplete Kontrol building framework thingy mentioned by machinesworking makes a lot of sense to me. I’m not holding my breath, but judging by the apparent success of Absynth‘s relaunch the upcoming year could be a great year for Reaktor.

[kropotkin303]

That is interesting using komlete kontrol to give some resizability for reaktor. Will give that a play. Thanks.