Hey guys, back in the 90s I had the Gemini DS-1224 Sampler but you had to record an audio sample first then playback. I am looking for something similar but which will stutter "on the fly".
I am thinking maybe the Korg Vocal Sampler might do it but not sure, any recommended units please?
Any hardware unit for vocal stuttering on the fly?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 393 posts since 16 Aug, 2004
Thanks but damn, few years ago I had the korg kaoss pad quad which I was using for delay/reverb fx. I had never tried it for stuttering mainly because I was thinking I would need a unit like the Gemini which has a start/stop button for stutter fx.
I will try to find a video for the kaoss to see how the stutter fx works on the fly, if there is one. Meantime, I have a tiny voiceover mp3 sample which I had paid someone to create years ago so you can hear exactly what I am seeking a unit for. Tomorrow morning I will load it on youtube and put the link here, thx.
I will try to find a video for the kaoss to see how the stutter fx works on the fly, if there is one. Meantime, I have a tiny voiceover mp3 sample which I had paid someone to create years ago so you can hear exactly what I am seeking a unit for. Tomorrow morning I will load it on youtube and put the link here, thx.
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- KVRAF
- 13119 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
Yeah, KP3+. Try the grain shifter and looper algorithms.
There are a ton of pedals and vocal processors out there that do this kind of thing. Some use an threshold level to automatically loop short bits when signal goes over a certain level, others will give you a button to press.
It's become such a ubiquitous effect, I would be surprised if most multi-effect unit's don't have some kind of micro-looper algorithm.
There are a ton of pedals and vocal processors out there that do this kind of thing. Some use an threshold level to automatically loop short bits when signal goes over a certain level, others will give you a button to press.
It's become such a ubiquitous effect, I would be surprised if most multi-effect unit's don't have some kind of micro-looper algorithm.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 393 posts since 16 Aug, 2004
Right, I will need one with a button to press like the start/stop button on the Gemini. This is one of the voiceovers I had paid a guy online to make for me years ago and I can't remember who it was so I can ask him what equipment he had used.
This voiceover seems to have first a simple echo and then the stutter and that combination is exactly what I would like to have but "on the fly" to trigger any piece of vocal playing from any song in my DJ software.
I am wondering if what I need is not a 'Sampler' but rather maybe a 'looper'? If so, then maybe something like this?
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... 5nEALw_wcB
This voiceover seems to have first a simple echo and then the stutter and that combination is exactly what I would like to have but "on the fly" to trigger any piece of vocal playing from any song in my DJ software.
I am wondering if what I need is not a 'Sampler' but rather maybe a 'looper'? If so, then maybe something like this?
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... 5nEALw_wcB
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35410 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
I would say looper pedals arent quite the same. I'd suggest looking for an old Korg Mini KP.
Set Theory claim:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 393 posts since 16 Aug, 2004
Thanks but I had the Korg Kaoss Quad and had gotten rid of it because I did not like having to use the 'pad' to trigger fx. Which is why I am seeking a 'start'stop' button as previously mentioned.
I have purchased the Denon DN-X1500 mixer only for the 'echo loop' function, as in this video below but not noticing a way to get the stutter fx from eitehr it's fx or sampling sections.
So that Boss RC202 unit won't do it right?
I have purchased the Denon DN-X1500 mixer only for the 'echo loop' function, as in this video below but not noticing a way to get the stutter fx from eitehr it's fx or sampling sections.
So that Boss RC202 unit won't do it right?
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35410 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Looper is typically 'record' then 'play' that recorded audio then 'undo' (or stop) playing it, and intended for recorded loop to be played continuously, alongside the original audio. So not what I'd call 'on the fly' compared to an actual stutter/grain/glitch effect as per the KP style.
And I also dont quite know what looper pedal would give that whole n-n-n-nineteen thing you're talking about.
Because to me it sorta means recording 'nineteen,' then immediately shortening the buffer time to 'n' syllable, playing that multiple times, then elongating buffer back to 'nineteen' and only looping that once, and doing that reliably and smoothly on the fly. They might do, but its not how I use a looper pedal.
What do you perceive as the problematic difference in use between 'touch pad to start let go of pad to stop' or 'hit hold and touch pad versus a 'start stop' button? Toggling is less immediate, moreso of, as per your video above with the Denon, you need to start using additional controls to change FX parameters.
And if needed, you can use the 'hold' pad as a toggle on the KPs. Touch pad and 'hold' as 'start' then hit 'hold' as 'stop'
And I also dont quite know what looper pedal would give that whole n-n-n-nineteen thing you're talking about.
Because to me it sorta means recording 'nineteen,' then immediately shortening the buffer time to 'n' syllable, playing that multiple times, then elongating buffer back to 'nineteen' and only looping that once, and doing that reliably and smoothly on the fly. They might do, but its not how I use a looper pedal.
What do you perceive as the problematic difference in use between 'touch pad to start let go of pad to stop' or 'hit hold and touch pad versus a 'start stop' button? Toggling is less immediate, moreso of, as per your video above with the Denon, you need to start using additional controls to change FX parameters.
And if needed, you can use the 'hold' pad as a toggle on the KPs. Touch pad and 'hold' as 'start' then hit 'hold' as 'stop'
Set Theory claim:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 393 posts since 16 Aug, 2004
Yes, having to change the parameters on the Denon won't do as I would need the different triggers readily available at any time but does give me what I need far as echoing goes.
I really don't know about the pad, it just doesn't feel right for me, don't know what else I can say on this.
Simply put, I am thinking like in a DJ software where you can loop the different beats showing in the deck on the fly, that is what I am seeking in a hardware device.
As in this screenshot it's usually mainly the 1/4 beat I would use to stutter any part of any track on the fly so I need a hardware piece just for this really.
I really don't know about the pad, it just doesn't feel right for me, don't know what else I can say on this.
Simply put, I am thinking like in a DJ software where you can loop the different beats showing in the deck on the fly, that is what I am seeking in a hardware device.
As in this screenshot it's usually mainly the 1/4 beat I would use to stutter any part of any track on the fly so I need a hardware piece just for this really.
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- KVRAF
- 20652 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Pioneer DJM's are good for this.
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- KVRAF
- 10128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Overkill, but the Roland SP404 mk2 can effect the live input and it has a Scatter (stutter) effect triggered at the touch of a button
https://www.roland.com/global/products/sp-404mk2
https://www.roland.com/global/products/sp-404mk2
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 393 posts since 16 Aug, 2004
Thank you. All of the research I have done today showed that it can stutter live signal as needed PLUS it can also do the 'echo loop' [infinite repeat] same as the denon.VariKusBrainZ wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 7:29 pm Overkill, but the Roland SP404 mk2 can effect the live input and it has a Scatter (stutter) effect triggered at the touch of a button
https://www.roland.com/global/products/sp-404mk2
So this would be an even better option for me as I would not need the denon anymore but I wish I could find someone who owns the SP404 MKII who I can ask to confirm.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240 - KVRAF
- 37261 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
WARP by SOMA appears to have a Glitch setting ...
https://somasynths.com/warp/
https://somasynths.com/warp/
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- KVRian
- 851 posts since 12 May, 2004
Eventide's old H-3000 had a live stuttering preset if I remember correctly.
On a number of Macs
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- KVRAF
- 20652 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
I can confirm that you can use its effects live. I didn't use the stutter effect when I had one.mikehende wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 10:35 pm So this would be an even better option for me as I would not need the denon anymore but I wish I could find someone who owns the SP404 MKII who I can ask to confirm.