*Urgent Plea For Help* - What Are The Top Synths Today?

[carrieres]

From Synapse Audio, Proxima and Obsession

[wagtunes]

Many of the more recent GForce synths (like OB-X, OB-1, etc) don't have much in the way of additional presets, and the ones on Gforce's site are pretty steep in price relative to the competition (roughly $20 for 50 presets).

That's a good point. Problem is, the only synths of theirs that I have are MAP, Imposcar 3 and TVS Pro. I don't own any of the OB synths which are the newest and probably the most in demand. My Imposcar 2 library hardly sold at all. So I'm hesitant to put time into GForce.

[buffalo roam]

This seems like it should be in Soundware, not Instruments. You want to sell soundware and are asking which synths that people think are at the top, but it is all about creating new soundware to sell.

This is just mean. Wagtunes is obviously a good, long-time member of this community and deserves some special consideration.

[BBFG#]

This seems like it should be in Soundware, not Instruments. You want to sell soundware and are asking which synths that people think are at the top, but it is all about creating new soundware to sell.

Good catch. Definitely got a point that any long time member would know. Simple enough for the mods to port to the appropriate subforum.

[mambo888]

He wants to sell soundware so he is asking which instruments are the most popular, I don’t see the contradiction here.

Personally I’d like to see more patches for instruments that are not so popular/mainstream:
-Opsix
-Multipoly
-MassiveX
-Dune 3
-Proxima
-Imposcar

And so on

It’s easy to find patches for Spire, Diva, Serum, Pigments etc, cause everybody knows and has these, but for the other synths unfortunately there is not a lot of selection out there. I think this is a sad situation because these synths are really capable but cannot truly shine without support from sound designers.

[wagtunes]

He wants to sell soundware so he is asking which instruments are the most popular, I don’t see the contradiction here.

Personally I’d like to see more patches for instruments that are not so popular/mainstream:
-Opsix
-Multipoly
-MassiveX
-Dune 3
-Proxima
-Imposcar

And so on

It’s easy to find patches for Spire, Diva, Serum, Pigments etc, cause everybody knows and has these, but for the other synths unfortunately there is not a lot of selection out there. I think this is a sad situation because these synths are really capable but cannot truly shine without support from sound designers.

Here's the reality though. I have made sound libraries for some of these synths (don't even own them all). Want to see the sales numbers?

Dune 3 - 7
Imposcar - 7
Massive - 4

It's too much work for too little ROI.

That's why nobody makes libraries for these synths because nobody wants them. Conversely, my Serum library, competing with everything that's out there, is my 3rd best selling library.

In fact, here are my top 10 selling libraries.

Softube Modular
Falcon
Serum
Omnisphere
Zebra 2
Avenger
Omnisphere 2
Aparillo
Arturia V Collection
Bazille

Yes, there are a few exceptions to the "Best selling synths" rule because for those libraries there is literally nothing out there AND they are difficult to program. The synths you listed are not difficult to program so nobody is going to buy libraries for them. Softube Modular is a gold mine for me. You have to be nuts to try to program that thing and there is just nothing out there.

But Serum is such a huge selling synth, selling libraries for it, even with all the competition, is easy to do.

[brok landers]

Hi Wagtunes,
sorry to hear that - hope you'll be up and running in no time and fully recovered.
Have you thought about Nexus? Since the last major version afaik it is openly programmable (just as in previous versions only the sound-designer version was) and it is very versatile, so everyone can make his own libraries/sounds now, i believe. I mention it because there's a lot of users.

[wagtunes]

Hi Wagtunes,
sorry to hear that - hope you'll be up and running in no time and fully recovered.
Have you thought about Nexus? Since the last major version afaik it is openly programmable (just as in previous versions only the sound-designer version was) and it is very versatile, so everyone can make his own libraries/sounds now, i believe. I mention it because there's a lot of users.

In fact, I just got Nexus, but not a lot of mentions here. But I will consider it when I look at the final numbers, which may be coming soon because I have a feeling this thread is going to be reported and either locked or moved.

If either should happen, I will PM each person who suggested a synth I ultimately programmed and ask them if they want a free copy. I don't think they'll mind.

I really wasn't expecting all this fuss, given the circumstances, but I'm really not surprised. I'll leave it at that.

[swilow11]

How do I find your soundbanks wagtunes?

[wagtunes]

How do I find your soundbanks wagtunes?

You can't now. It is a very long story that I don't want to get into here. I hope to be fully operational again by the middle of the year.

[Shabdahbriah]

Sure. Program one, program all.
But it's the personal connection to an instrument that makes the programs excel. Otherwise, it's just another hack to the same old thing.

I have a personal connection to every synth I own, which is why there are some synths I don't own because I don't resonate with them at all. Like Sylenth1. To this day I have yet to buy it and I never will. The synth leaves me stone cold.

Before I buy a synth, I listen to the demos. If the demos make me go wow, I buy the synth because I know what that synth is capable of and I know, given I've been programming synths for 50 years, that I can do a good job.

Hope this clears things up.

Same/same... Sorry to hear about your accident, but glad you are not dead or paralyzed.

I am slowly working towards a return to preset making also, after a decades+ break. But I tend to work with fairly unconventional instruments (H.G. Fortune/Tim Conrardy/Boris Kovalev, creations). Currently, I'm leaning towards the Dawsome stuff, and a couple of Cherry Audio things... but mainly Voltage Modular. That said:

1) I agree with everything said about Zebra 3. I don't think you could lose with that choice.
2) The Dawsome stuff.
3) Current (mentioned several times) has certainly looked interesting to me in the past, but I recently picked-up Ultra instead.
4) Unify (by pluginguru) was mentioned, and aside from the new built in GURUSampler 2.0's potential for presets, having your current top sellers integrated in Unify wouldn't hurt. {2c}

p.s. You posted your question in the appropriate forum. (full stop)

[wagtunes]

Sure. Program one, program all.
But it's the personal connection to an instrument that makes the programs excel. Otherwise, it's just another hack to the same old thing.

I have a personal connection to every synth I own, which is why there are some synths I don't own because I don't resonate with them at all. Like Sylenth1. To this day I have yet to buy it and I never will. The synth leaves me stone cold.

Before I buy a synth, I listen to the demos. If the demos make me go wow, I buy the synth because I know what that synth is capable of and I know, given I've been programming synths for 50 years, that I can do a good job.

Hope this clears things up.

Same/same... Sorry to hear about your accident, but glad you are not dead or paralyzed.

I am slowly working towards a return to preset making also, after a decades+ break. But I tend to work with fairly unconventional instruments (H.G. Fortune/Tim Conrardy/Boris Kovalev, creations). Currently, I'm leaning towards the Dawsome stuff, and a couple of Cherry Audio things... but mainly Voltage Modular. That said:

1) I agree with everything said about Zebra 3. I don't think you could lose with that choice.
2) The Dawsome stuff.
3) Current (mentioned several times) has certainly looked interesting to me in the past, but I recently picked-up Ultra instead.
4) Unify (by pluginguru) was mentioned, and aside from the new built in GURUSampler 2.0's potential for presets, having your current top sellers integrated in Unify wouldn't hurt. {2c}

Thank you for your help. Hope you get back up to speed real soon. By the way, isn't HG Fortune stuff great? Too bad I can't use it anymore on this system.

[swilow11]

How do I find your soundbanks wagtunes?

You can't now. It is a very long story that I don't want to get into here. I hope to be fully operational again by the middle of the year.

Okay. Well keep us posted- I'm keen to see what you do...

[muzicxs]

I would also go for Zebra 3. Amazing and powerful synth that has some complexity to it due to its modular nature. It can do things no other synth can do. You will also start with close to zero competition. I can only assume that this would be rather beneficial, especially in the first few years of the synth's existence.

[wagtunes]

I would also go for Zebra 3. Amazing and powerful synth that has some complexity to it due to its modular nature. It can do things no other synth can do. You will also start with close to zero competition. I can only assume that this would be rather beneficial, especially in the first few years of the synth's existence.

Thanks. That is something to consider.