Fender Studio Pro 8 Released

[Fidelitymusic]

And how long do you think that was? I'd say five minutes for the new splash screen with the hideous blue gradient plus maybe another minute to replace the Studio One icon with a Fender icon i n a library where its accessed as needed. SO maybe six minutes in total. It's OUTRAGEOUS!

There are changelogs all throughout the last year for Fender Studio development. The rebranding of Studio One, UI changes, manual updates, etc. doesn’t happen overnight either.

When did they reduce the quality of their updates? V7 has had more and better updates than v5 or v6 did and the upgrade to V8 is at least as good as the upgrade was from 5 to 6 or 6 to 7. Best of all, it was free for me, which none of the others have been.

You’re one of the few people who actually thinks v7 had better updates than v5 and v6. That’s not my view or the general sentiment amongst the user base.

That's just a f**king lie. Upgrades used to be $149, now they are $99.

Upgrades used to be in 2 year update cycles. Even at the current $99 pricing, users are paying more.

Sphere predates any involvement from Fender and they were doing those things back then. That's just PreSonus, it hasn't changed since the merger.

That has nothing to do with Sphere. The forum was closed in ’24, add-ons were removed from their online shop in ’24, uploading to the Exchange was removed this year.

Yes, and it was those people I was addressing. To be fair, though, I haven't even installed them but for people to complain about things they get for free just shits me.

Nobody is getting anything for free, customers pay for the software with 12 months of updates.

Again, that's exactly the same kind of thing we saw with Sphere. Nothing has changed. It's all in your head.

That also has nothing to do with Sphere. Lead Architect came out in ’24 and was the first and last plugin that was released for subscription users only and not perpetual license owners. Didn't happen before, never happened again. We're all still trying to figure out what's in your head.

[musicalwarmth812]

No it doesn't, it's part of Fender now, has been for years. It's just a meaningless, dead brand.

Haha - it's not dead yet ya dumbf**k! The brand still exists, ya f***in clown!

OK and what year is it now? So you can argue about the date (and you'll still be wrong) but you're still admitting Fender Studio predates Studio Pro. You've still got no leg to stand on.

No, I'm not wrong, these are just facts, even though you don't like them:

Fender Studio released in 2025, Fender Studio "pro" released in 2026

And I asked to point some out to us but you have so far not managed to come up with any, it would seem.

I already said it in my post ya silly f***er!

My blood is boiling over someone spreading baseless bullshit, misinforming people

HAHA, I know! And it's f***ing hilarious! And since you are unable to distinguish fact from opinion, I already stated my opinion, which made you already have a bi*** fit, and you didn't like it when I stated facts either, so make up your mind...and if I have spread any misinformation, point to that, and I'll correct myself.

Do you even know what Servco is? Do you know their history? They've been in the music business even longer than Fender. They bought out a venture capital group, TPG, to protect Fender. That's made them the largest shareholder but they don't own Fender. Again, it pays to do your research, lest you make a complete dick of yourself.

You are one silly sonofab***h, I'll give ya that. I've been playing FMIC guitars for decades, I already know pretty much the entire history by heart. Your cut and past doesn't impress me...You sure are an angry little b***h though aren't you...some funny s**t, I knew, you were gonna lose it when I made my post...once again, opinion, is not to be confused with facts, except in your little world...

[musicalwarmth812]

OK, so Servco are scavenging bastards who just want to rape and pillage Fender IP and dump the company, are they? If so, why is it taking them so long? They could have done it in 1985, or in 2012 when the bought out Western Presidio, or in 2020 when they bought out TPG. But they haven't, have they? No, they mostly seem to have been hands-off, letting the company do what the company does. So where, exactly, is the problem?

They have killed off multiple brands, genius, so let's not act like they're saviors, ok?

[jamcat]

What does their roots have to do with their present day product lines and current direction? Preamps and live sound equipment for church worship music has nothing to do with Fender, that actually aligns more with Behringers offerings.

What it has to do with it is, first of all, PreSonus founder Jim Odom still ran the company until he sold it to Fender. He's been a guitarist in the Grammy-nominated, Louisiana Music Hall of Fame band, LeRoux, since 1982, and PreSonus always maintained their original mission statement even as they grew to a $200 million dollar company. That mission being all about live sound for working musicians playing clubs, halls, and churches. These are bands that mic up drums, guitars, and vocals.

Fender's interest in PreSonus is to fill in the gaps and compliment their existing products, providing an end-to-end signal chain, from the guitar, through the amp, into the mixer and out the speakers.

[Nameerf]

So far 8 seems more stable/less buggy than 7 was for me... Not found any bugs or had any crashes yet. Name change doesn't affect me at all either!

[BONES]

They have killed off multiple brands, genius?

Name one.

[musicalwarmth812]

They have killed off multiple brands, genius?

Name one.

You’re the one that loves copy/paste research…do your homework and get back to me, lad

[BONES]

OK, so you can' t name one. Hardly a revelation.

There are changelogs all throughout the last year for Fender Studio development. The rebranding of Studio One, UI changes, manual updates, etc. doesn’t happen overnight either.

Exactly like the changelogs for every other version of Studio One. Can you even see how ridiculous you look saying shit like this?

You’re one of the few people who actually thinks v7 had better updates than v5 and v6. That’s not my view or the general sentiment amongst the user base.

People are clueless f**king idiots, mate. If that's the best you can do, you're not going to win this argument because everybody complains about every new version. I reckon I've had at least twice as many updates in the last year as any other year I've been using Studio One. At one point they seemed to be coming out fortnightly and with every one of them Studio One seemed to be a little more stable, more robust. THOSE are the kinds of updates that matter to me, not new features I'll never use or extra content I'll never even download.

Upgrades used to be in 2 year update cycles. Even at the current $99 pricing, users are paying more.

But that's not what you said. You said upgrades were more expensive when they are not. Because the thing is, nobody has to upgrade. Ever. I didn't upgrade to v6 until it was on sale for cheap and I didn't upgrade to v7 until I felt like it, until a few of those supposedly worthless updates actually added up to decent value. I probably wouldn't have upgraded to v8 at all if I'd had to pay for it, because I was completely happy with the current state of v7, but it means by the time I have to pay for another upgrade, I'll have only spent $99 in two or more years.

That has nothing to do with Sphere. The forum was closed in ’24, add-ons were removed from their online shop in ’24, uploading to the Exchange was removed this year.

Don't pick and choose, the PreSonus forum was a waste of time, nobody ever used it anyway but PreSonus were holding back features for subscribers when I first bought Studio One, so nothing about that has changed.

Nobody is getting anything for free

I got V8 for free and I got all the stuff that had been added between 7.0 and when I upgraded, which felt like free.

That also has nothing to do with Sphere. Lead Architect came out in ’24 and was the first and last plugin that was released for subscription users only.

That's absolute bullshit. There were a gazillion add-ons that you had to pay for in Studio One that were included in Sphere. Things like Tricomp, Chorus, Analog Delay, Rotor, Redlight Distortion, Fat Channel Collection, CTC-1 Pro Console Shaper, the complete Retro Mix Legends, PreSonus Symphony Orchestra and Audio Batch Converter, for example.

What I notice with Version 8, though, is that all the content that had previously been exclusive to Studio One Pro+ subscribers now seems to be free with the new version. All of a sudden I have access to a lot of stuff I haven't seen before. 3rd party stuff from Arturia, Eventide, New Fangled Audio and others, as well as all four of the sample-based instruments. I also haven't seen mention of a new "+" version since the name change, which is interesting.

No, I'm not wrong, these are just facts, even though you don't like them:
Fender Studio released in 2025, Fender Studio "pro" released in 2026

There you go, so Fender Studio existed before Fender Studio Pro, so it can't have been an entry level version of anything, can it? And it has features that Studio Pro does not, like Jam Tracks. You are so full of shit it's a wonder you don't explode.

You are one silly sonofab***h, I'll give ya that. I've been playing FMIC guitars for decades, I already know pretty much the entire history by heart.

How does playing a Fender guitar have anything to do with the history of Servco? Do you have a problem with simple comprehension? Is English not your native language?

They have killed off multiple brands, genius, so let's not act like they're saviors, ok?

Again, name one. I mean, they'll kill of PreSonus because it's basically worthless and if they've killed off any others, it would probably have been for good reason.

[musicalwarmth812]

Yes, Fender Studio was exactly the entry level app to Fender Studio “pro,” and yes it predates it - are you skipping again?

[ffx]

Well, Steinberg is an example from which they could have learned. There are even relations between the devs teams. Steinberg was first bought by a investor, I forgot the name, and at that time, things did not go well, since the investor wanted to suck out maximum profit. Later Yamaha bought Steinberg, and since then, I would say it works out well. They completely untouched the Steinberg brand, and pretty surely Steinberg built those Yamaha Montage VST engines, which then are partly used in Halion. It seems to be a good synergy, from which both parties are benefiting, without reduction, pseudo optimization or whatever. Ok, you can say Yamaha is a huge brand, but certainly US companies could learn a lot from such a long standing brand and maybe a bit from Japanese traditions and strategies. It should be about customers and people, not about profit in the first place.

A lot of late decisions in the Studio One brand were strange, like a typical US company move: Pseudo updates and features, rebranding and selling as new. We all know these common business from other US companies like Apple or Microsoft, clearly they believe that their customers are dumb AF. But in reality their strategists and decision makers are the dumb ones. US capitalists should shut the f*** up and let Japanese and German people do their commonly much better work. Sadly a lot of companies in Germany are now just as stupid as the big US corps. Ok, this is another story. I personally have never seen anything bad from Fender, but I neither know this brand. The rebranding of Studio One just is ridiculous. What a immense waste of developer resources. Fire the strategist, please. And instead making Studio One plugins in a proprietary format and then also punlish it via Presonus hub, they could have made those simply as VSTs, and sell it even as separate products then. Now there is yet another amp modeller / guitar thing, but in a proprietary way in Fender Studio... Since guitar player so dumb AF (that's what the strategists think), so there is an app called something with "Fender" which provides guitar stuff.... Jesus. This obviously is not a smart strategy, putting a logo sticker onto an estabilshed brand.

[musicalwarmth812]

Well, Steinberg is an example from which they could have learned. There are even relations between the devs teams. Steinberg was first bought by a investor, I forgot the name, and at that time, things did not go well, since the investor wanted to suck out maximum profit. Later Yamaha bought Steinberg, and since then, I would say it works out well. They completely untouched the Steinberg brand, and pretty surely Steinberg built those Yamaha Montage VST engines, which then are partly used in Halion. It seems to be a good synergy, from which both parties are benefiting, without reduction, pseudo optimization or whatever. Ok, you can say Yamaha is a huge brand, but certainly US companies could learn a lot from such a long standing brand and maybe a bit from Japanese traditions and strategies. It should be about customers and people, not about profit in the first place.

A lot of late decisions in the Studio One brand were strange, like a typical US company move: Pseudo updates and features, rebranding and selling as new. We all know these common business from other US companies like Apple or Microsoft, clearly they believe that their customers are dumb AF. But in reality their strategists and decision makers are the dumb ones. US capitalists should shut the f*** up and let Japanese and German people do their commonly much better work. Sadly a lot of companies in Germany are now just as stupid as the big US corps. Ok, this is another story. I personally have never seen anything bad from Fender, but I neither know this brand. The rebranding of Studio One just is ridiculous. What a immense waste of developer resources. Fire the strategist, please. And instead making Studio One plugins in a proprietary format and then also punlish it via Resonus hub, they could have made those simply as VSTs, and sell it even as separate products then. Now there is yet another amp modeller / guitar thing, but in a proprietary way in Fender Studio... Since guitar player so dumb AF (that's what's the strategists think), so there is an app "Fender" and it provides guitar stuff.... Jesus.

Yamaha’s example is the benchmark which all others should follow…And I’ll add it was a free blueprint for Servco to follow (you made that perfectly clear, I just wanted to state that I’m in agreement), but the only things that got in the way were petty hubris and desperation

[Igro]

Well, Steinberg is an example from which they could have learned. There are even relations between the devs teams. Steinberg was first bought by a investor, I forgot the name, and at that time, things did not go well, since the investor wanted to suck out maximum profit. Later Yamaha bought Steinberg, and since then, I would say it works out well. They completely untouched the Steinberg brand, and pretty surely Steinberg built those Yamaha Montage VST engines, which then are partly used in Halion. It seems to be a good synergy, from which both parties are benefiting, without reduction, pseudo optimization or whatever. Ok, you can say Yamaha is a huge brand, but certainly US companies could learn a lot from such a long standing brand and maybe a bit from Japanese traditions and strategies. It should be about customers and people, not about profit in the first place.

A lot of late decisions in the Studio One brand were strange, like a typical US company move: Pseudo updates and features, rebranding and selling as new. We all know these common business from other US companies like Apple or Microsoft, clearly they believe that their customers are dumb AF. But in reality their strategists and decision makers are the dumb ones. US capitalists should shut the f*** up and let Japanese and German people do their commonly much better work. Sadly a lot of companies in Germany are now just as stupid as the big US corps. Ok, this is another story. I personally have never seen anything bad from Fender, but I neither know this brand. The rebranding of Studio One just is ridiculous. What a immense waste of developer resources. Fire the strategist, please. And instead making Studio One plugins in a proprietary format and then also punlish it via Presonus hub, they could have made those simply as VSTs, and sell it even as separate products then. Now there is yet another amp modeller / guitar thing, but in a proprietary way in Fender Studio... Since guitar player so dumb AF (that's what the strategists think), so there is an app called something with "Fender" which provides guitar stuff.... Jesus. This obviously is not a smart strategy, putting a logo sticker onto an estabilshed brand.

Steinberg is doing well? Could you tell me where? Cubase 15 hasn't even released any update since its release (the most bugy release ever). They are very slow, seriously.
Cubase doesn't even support midi sidechain, unless you make ghosts tracks all over the place. No extended routing. Outdated (and faulty) audio engine. This DAW is past, unless the current new developers will be brave enough to get dirty with the core engine (and they are not right now).

[stanft]

[..] No extended routing. Outdated (and faulty) audio engine. [..]

Okay? What exactly do you miss concerning the routing? Cubase i.e. supports multiple sidechains per plugin. I don't know many DAWs that allow you to do this.

And in my experience, Cubase has the audio engine with a nearly perfect delay compensation. Something, that always held me back from using Studio One or Studio Pro. Because the delay compensation for external synths is crap in Studio Pro.

[revvy]

OK, so Servco are scavenging bastards who just want to rape and pillage Fender IP and dump the company, are they? If so, why is it taking them so long? They could have done it in 1985, or in 2012 when the bought out Western Presidio, or in 2020 when they bought out TPG. But they haven't, have they? No, they mostly seem to have been hands-off, letting the company do what the company does. So where, exactly, is the problem?

This was after my reply so not sure if was at me. But to answer your question, from a Fender stewardship point of view, perhaps no problem at all. My only point was about technicalities on ownership and VC v PE.

Issue here seems to be not Servco over Fender, but rather Fender over PreSonus/Studio One. On a personal level I love my Fender PBass but I am relieved they don’t own Ableton.

[Igro]

[..] No extended routing. Outdated (and faulty) audio engine. [..]

Okay? What exactly do you miss concerning the routing? Cubase i.e. supports multiple sidechains per plugin. I don't know many DAWs that allow you to do this.

And in my experience, Cubase has the audio engine with a nearly perfect delay compensation. Something, that always held me back from using Studio One or Studio Pro. Because the delay compensation for external synths is crap in Studio Pro.

i noticed that Cubase audio engine has inconsistent jitters. Which is weird, as it is considered as very professional DAW. I reported this to their support and they answered:

"We have reviewed the behavior together with the development team.
The developers were already aware of this behavior, and your tests confirm the current internal understanding.
More specifically:
during playback, a minimal jitter of approximately 1–2 samples may occur;
the file generated via Render in Place / Export can be delayed by 1 sample compared to HALion Sonic 7 and Groove Agent 6 SE playback;
if you move the rendered file 1–2 samples earlier and perform a null test (phase inversion), the signal becomes silent.
This behavior is related to the architecture of the audio engine and its internal rendering process. Since the effect can only be detected through a null test and is not perceptible in a real-world or musical listening context, a corrective intervention is currently not considered appropriate.
We greatly appreciate the precision of your analysis and the level of detail in your tests, which will remain documented for possible future evaluation."

That is not a perfect audio engine, as you stated.

The routing: Cubase can only dream of the Bitwig routing.