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Igro wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 8:22 am Steinberg is doing well? Could you tell me where? Cubase 15 hasn't even released any update since its release (the most bugy release ever). They are very slow, seriously...
I would say so. They have the oldest grown codebase, and yet managed to add a "meta signal" modulation system recently, which is a completely different layer of abstraction that you have to integrate into the engine. Also their DAW is the fastest available. Maybe they are slow in development, but it seems to me that they are not afraid of adding / improving core features, instead adding layers of (often crappy) stuff which you could easily can substitue with much better third party software.

But this discussion was about brands and the public visibility/credibility of a company. Here Steinberg did it right, at least in my perspective, after doing it wrong before. Maybe Fender is a good corp, I can't tell, but investing dev time into a complete rebranding seems to be a waste of resources, in multiple ways. And it looks like a typical US corp way of thinking, when you start to produce bullshit products, e.g. faking a renew just to sell the same again, or deprecate it, just to sell new stuff. This is the mindset of people which have no connection to nature, lack of social skills and are mainly driven by greed and stupidity. Is this happening here, too?

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ffx wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 9:28 am
Igro wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 8:22 am Steinberg is doing well? Could you tell me where? Cubase 15 hasn't even released any update since its release (the most bugy release ever). They are very slow, seriously...
I would say so. They have the oldest grown codebase, and yet managed to add a "meta signal" modulation system recently, which is a completely different layer of abstraction that you have to integrate into the engine. Also their DAW is the fastest available. Maybe they are slow in development, but it seems to me that they are not afraid of adding / improving core features, instead adding layers of (often crappy) stuff which you could easily can substitue with much better third party software.

But this discussion was about brands and the public visibility/credibility of a company. Here Steinberg did it right, at least in my perspective, after doing it wrong before. Maybe Fender is a good corp, I can't tell, but investing dev time into a complete rebranding seems to be a waste of resources, in multiple ways. And it looks like a typical US corp way of thinking, when you start to produce bullshit products, e.g. faking a renew just to sell the same again, or deprecate it, just to sell new stuff. This is the mindset of people which have no connection to nature, lack of social skills and are mainly driven by greed and stupidity. Is this happening here, too?
I agree with you about the rest.

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jens wrote: Fri Jan 23, 2026 7:18 pm
Shalotta wrote: Fri Jan 23, 2026 5:28 pm The haggling into a new round?
Prepped for Behringer xOne Studio Pro 9?
I place it as rumor, no source at my hands yet.

Just in:
Fender was bought by MusicTribe.
A press release states that all software based products will be rebranded to “in house brand pedigree”.
It's not April 1st yet, so I am absolutely puzzled as to what could ever be the point of your post...
jamcat wrote: Fri Jan 23, 2026 7:29 pm Perhaps to make people realize how lucky we actually are that it’s Fender/Servco, and how much worse it could have been?
A proportional assessment taken from a v6.5 "old school license model" distance
may help at times to get the head straight.

Frankly, after v6.5 I had the feeling Presonus is riding a dead horse
and I was at the brink of changing the daw.
The new brand was an essential cut eventually to signal fresh perspectives.

If we take a snapshot of where users are in practical terms ...
Fender has an incoming CEO rooted into being a musician himself,
who is said to have announced to ease things up & makes daw maintenance more effordable etc.
which comes info effect atm. with daw upgrades taken in 2yrs cycles at 50 bucks p.a. without running into subscription(s).
The Hambutg team gets better funded which can be seen in v8 overhaul & long overdue fixes and improvements ...

All to be taken with a grain of salt and the obligatory no crystal ball yadda yadda,
I would say the weight tends to go more towards investigation and interest into the daw
which leads rather to a positive prognosis than expecting another Gibson disaster.

I will continue to watch more closely, now that the attention returned.
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Igro wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 9:22 am [..] That is not a perfect audio engine, as you stated. [..]
I stated "nearly perfect". We are talking about a single sample. In Studio Pro, we are talking about several milliseconds. And depending on the synth and the audio engine settings, it may be dozens of milliseconds.
Igro wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 9:22 am The routing: Cubase can only dream of the Bitwig routing.
Comparing to Bitwig's routing, most DAWs can only dream. But there are also a lot of features in Cubase (or other DAWs) that Bitwig can only dream about.

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Shalotta wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 10:20 am [..] The Hambutg team gets better funded which can be seen in v8 overhaul & long overdue fixes and improvements ... [..]
Are you talking about things that are still to come? Because in my opinion, v8 was mostly a rework to establish the new Fender-based product line (another visual overhaul, new Fender amp simulations). If I look at the core DAW features or long overdue fixes, v8 is not a major release after all.

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stanft wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 10:30 am
Shalotta wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 10:20 am [..] The Hambutg team gets better funded which can be seen in v8 overhaul & long overdue fixes and improvements ... [..]
Are you talking about things that are still to come? Because in my opinion, v8 was mostly a rework to establish the new Fender-based product line (another visual overhaul, new Fender amp simulations). If I look at the core DAW features or long overdue fixes, v8 is not a major release after all.
Agreed, neither v7 was a major upgrade, nor v8 is,
the main point of my refusal to go beyond v6.5 and consideration of changing daw.

I remain on the fence but I see positive trends now to keep S1 back in the game
and I tried to list a view points vs v6.5

A sign someone listens or provide more funds for example
are simple long requested features like the sample fades in Impact.
An annoyance since v1 without.

Nothing too fancy but something seems to move forward (from what I read and see on YT).
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I work mostly in the piano roll with midi editing in my DAW's. I started using S1 v6 again and had forgotten how user friendly the piano roll is for midi editing in S1. Editing in piano is very well designed. I can quickly mouse zoom in/out/sideways etc and edit notes quickly. Editing automation and things like piano sustain is easy as well.

Are there further piano roll editing improvements in Pro v7 or Fender Studio Pro that are worth upgrading to?

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Now this morning, it wouldn't connect with my MX88. Shows it exists, but won't say it's connected. Despite that, the MIDI monitor still shows messages, though it will not pass them on to the track or virtual instruments.

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jonljacobi wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 4:05 pm Now this morning, it wouldn't connect with my MX88. Shows it exists, but won't say it's connected. Despite that, the MIDI monitor still shows messages, though it will not pass them on to the track or virtual instruments.
I had a similar issue when upgrading from Studio One 5, to Studio One 7. When opening projects in SO7 that were created in SO5, my midi controller was recognized, but wouldn't play any instruments. So far I haven't sorted it out, but if I create a new project, the controller is recognized and works correctly. Could this be related to the issue you're experiencing? Are you opening old projects in a new version?

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Mike777 wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 3:50 pm I work mostly in the piano roll with midi editing in my DAW's. I started using S1 v6 again and had forgotten how user friendly the piano roll is for midi editing in S1. Editing in piano is very well designed. I can quickly mouse zoom in/out/sideways etc and edit notes quickly. Editing automation and things like piano sustain is easy as well.

Are there further piano roll editing improvements in Pro v7 or Fender Studio Pro that are worth upgrading to?
  • Pitch visibility filters: Used or Scale, this hides unused notes or notes outside of a selected scale.
  • Duplicate notes up or down semitones using 'Alt/Opt + Up-Down' arrows.
I've attached a collection of additional .musicalscale files I put together, used Scaler 2 for reference. Unzip and add the ones you want to your Studio One/Pro data folder under 'Presets > User Presets > Musical Scales'.

Musical Scales Presets.zip
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Fidelitymusic wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 4:53 pm
Mike777 wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 3:50 pm I work mostly in the piano roll with midi editing in my DAW's. I started using S1 v6 again and had forgotten how user friendly the piano roll is for midi editing in S1. Editing in piano is very well designed. I can quickly mouse zoom in/out/sideways etc and edit notes quickly. Editing automation and things like piano sustain is easy as well.

Are there further piano roll editing improvements in Pro v7 or Fender Studio Pro that are worth upgrading to?
  • Pitch visibility filters: Used or Scale, this hides unused notes or notes outside of a selected scale.
  • Duplicate notes up or down semitones using 'Alt/Opt + Up-Down' arrows.
I've attached a collection of additional .musicalscale files I put together, used Scaler 2 for reference. Unzip and add the ones you want to your Studio One/Pro data folder under 'Presets > User Presets > Musical Scales'.


Musical Scales Presets.zip
Thanks!

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Is anyone else experiencing this issue in Studio Pro 8 while using Steinberg Spectralayers in ARA mode? It's absolutely awful — I can't work like this.
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Mike777 wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 3:50 pm I work mostly in the piano roll with midi editing in my DAW's. I started using S1 v6 again and had forgotten how user friendly the piano roll is for midi editing in S1. Editing in piano is very well designed. I can quickly mouse zoom in/out/sideways etc and edit notes quickly. Editing automation and things like piano sustain is easy as well.



Are there further piano roll editing improvements in Pro v7 or Fender Studio Pro that are worth upgrading to?
If you like a lovely piano roll... :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

MuLab!

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For those like myself who've had crashes since the update, shout out to studio one forums for this little fix
https://studiooneforum.com/threads/list ... 864/page-2 (post 30)

Essentially change processing in audio settings from 64bit to 32bit single processing (if you have it at 64bit dual, as I did) and crashfest ended, I can now load my older projects w/ no issues. Fingers crossed but other posters seem to say it works.

Worth trying if you're having crashes or general sketchy 3rd party plugin behavior.

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For those like myself who've had crashes since the update, shout out to studio one forums for this little fix
https://studiooneforum.com/threads/list ... 864/page-2 (post 30)

Essentially change processing in audio settings from 64bit to 32bit single processing (if you have it at 64bit dual, as I did) and crashfest ended, I can now load my older projects w/ no issues. Fingers crossed but other posters seem to say it works.

Worth trying if you're having crashes or general sketchy 3rd party plugin behavior.
I have it always set to 32bit anyway so that might explain why I didn't experience any crashes so far.
(Just other - partly quite dramatic - bugs)

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