Poll:_REQUEST to KVR Mods: open a own AI sub-Forum.....?

[Funky40]

This is a KVR Forum feature request !
Yes, wrong sub forum in that sense.

You un-bots at KVR:
please vote ....i created a poll

I kind of wish KvR had a subform specifically for discussing AI, so I could ignore it and we could talk about instruments and effects and production etc. in these threads instead


My prediction:

People will ...........

But you have to say something on that matter
Good post, i like it. I´m totally with you
from here: viewtopic.php?p=9194153#p9194153


NO AI DISCUSSION as such here, PLEASE JUST VOTE.
Text is here welcome => to express how you see it vs. the Topic: New sub-Forum ? yes/No ?
AI -as such- is NOT the topic here.


poll is set to end in 120 days.
options per user: 1
re-voting enabled


TL;.....don´t read:
Subforum yes/No ? is a very rudimentary phrasing. I´m well aware of that. personally, right now, i´d just put it all into none single sub-Forum. Add this rule: each new Topic has a "theme-pointer" first. Like
- instrument / VST-I
- FX
- Outboard / post processing
- production work
- Song creation
- development of the market (SW tools / business)
- dev of Music as such
- dev of the tools itself
you get the idea.
The mods could create a abreviation scheme.

Not sure how good this would work. But shows already how Forum SW could and should be improved. Aslong as the tools don´t deliver to better extent, can man improvise. ( not sure what this forums Sw allows already)


internet addicts who have nolonger control over them self: STAY OUT vs. any of your offTopic output.


EDIT vs. how i used the term "vs." in the poll:
let me clarifie:
"vs." is used here as: "in relation to", respectivly as "rather than".

[wagtunes]

I honestly don't know how I feel about this. I do use AI vocals because my voice is crap but as far as discussion. Part of me fears that it will turn into an Us vs Them war while another part of me feels it could be productive. So far the poll shows most people don't want it.

[BBFG#]

Can't really vote in the poll as the "vs." aspect kills it for me. I'm sure it would come up in the sub-forum and I think just having an "AI" sub-forum could and would be productive.
Because then, even AI could learn from it.

[Saffran]

Can't really vote in the poll as the "vs." aspect kills it for me. I'm sure it would come up in the sub-forum and I think just having an "AI" sub-forum could and would be productive.
Because then, even AI could learn from it.

I voted despite of the misplaced "vs".
I'm also interested in a stem exchange if it's possible. Thinking about a stem subforum in the AI forum. With more subforums for the different tempos of them.
A big backside is of course that it needs a Google drive to store them and somehow have the KVR account regulating access.

[DCrown]

well, imo ai productions shouldn't be mixed together with music without ai for example on Spotify, it should have its own charts or ranking or category and it should be marked as ai production. So I think ai stuff should have it's own sub-forum.
But I don't comprehend "vs", ai productions are ai productions, and the rest (the vast minority) is music that is produced without ai.

[Funky40]

let me clarifie:
i´m not native english, (oh well, i´ve been.......as a child)
"vs." is used here as: "in relation to", respectivly as "rather than".
( I thought i HAD to keep the wording as small as possible when i created the poll)

So, the "vs." in point 1, means:
"in relation to music making".........to diversifie "music making" from "anything else AI"* (*incl. further-off topics vs. "music")


Thanks for feedback !

[elxsound]

I honestly don't know how I feel about this. I do use AI vocals because my voice is crap but as far as discussion. Part of me fears that it will turn into an Us vs Them war while another part of me feels it could be productive. So far the poll shows most people don't want it.

Hopefully, it would allow for specific threads dedicated to versus conversations, so not every thread becomes the same argument.

Obviously, not a given since familiar topics of analog vs digital, Mac vs Win, and upgrade pricing can dominate any thread.

I’m still voting for it, because there’s too many dedicated AI threads that I’d like to ignore.

[Cuauhtli]

101100 1001 11001

[DCrown]

@foosnark wrote: ↑
I kind of wish KvR had a subform specifically for discussing AI, so I could ignore it and we could talk about instruments and effects and production etc. in these threads instead

I completely agree, even though it is hard to ignore it, cuz it's everywhere today and spreads like the plague, so it is about creating two spaces, ai spaces and ai-free spaces - human art/tradition/values/talent/musicianship vs fake.

[jancivil]

I think there's a stark difference between "AI" for mixing purposes and "AI" as though a musical composition of some sort is fabricated via a prompt. I voted for the first option listed because of the general pollution of various subforums.

[BBFG#]

Apologies. I come from a part of our country mired in litigious verbage.
So "vs." or "v." mostly means opposition. For what you're proposing, it would be "re." which expresses "regard".
No matter either way. Thank you for your explanation.
An AI sub-forum is as relative at KVR as is the computer sub-forum and IMO, deserves its own.

My biggest problem with AI right now is its infancy and letting it be trained by the masses of ignorancy jumping the wagon to exploit it to greater depths of mediocrity.
As if it can get any more mediocre than it already has.
It will replace something, but there will always be real musicians regardless.

[wagtunes]

You know, there are a lot of self righteous people here.

I'll leave it at that.

[BBFG#]

at that irony.

[Teksonik]

I'd vote for a subforum for all the "what's your favorite, least favorite, top five, top ten, desert island, plugins you can't live without, plugins you hate, etc, etc, etc, threads. Not gonna happen but that would get my vote.

But yeah if we could stuff all the A.I. crap into a subforum that could either be ignored if we wish or visited every day if we wish that would be nice.

Or people could just have a little bit of self discipline and post in the already existing "Everything Else (Music Related)" subforum to leave the Instruments, Effects, etc forums for things that really matter. But again that's not likely to happen because there are too many people who think it's more fun to talk about plugins than actually use them......

[Seafire Mk2]

I'd vote for a forum where a poster makes a statement then tells everyone to not respond because they won't read it because they are 'done here '

Baby Spitting The Dummy Forum