Shortcircuit XT is in Beta!

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baconpaul wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 3:14 am
Echoes in the Attic wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 2:47 am
baconpaul wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 2:22 am changing pitch without changing length is a different form of time stretching and still yeah that's not in the synth.
It's not really different though. Changing pitch and length independently is timestretch. Change length without changing pitch or change pitch/tune without changing length. I don't think I've ever seen one without the other in a sample with timestretch.
I swear when I typed this I meant to type "is just a different form of....". English is funny and if you add the just its clear we agree - because you are correct!

My sentence is really weirdly ambiguous.

Anyway yeah it's the same software just in a different dimension.

And its still not in the synth :)
You know what’s even funnier is that I swear I read “changing pitch without changing length is different from time stretching”! Even further than what you meant to write haha.

And yeah I guess it’s still not in the synth. ;)

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Hahahah you guys xD

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Old Norse wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 3:53 pm Congrats on the beta release, looks and sounds super useful! :clap:

There's some gorgeous low bass in that video, any chance of that appearing in the patch repo? :pray:
Thanks! Hope it turns out to be.

And yeah, happy to put that bass patch in with the factory content! It's a synthesis-only patch, which SCXT is actually pretty great for! If we could have a penny for each time someone posted a sound bite in Discord of SCXT sounding nice using no samples at all, we'd seriously get a couple dozen pennies maybe! Though we'd still turn them down on account of our no-money policy of course. :ud: But yeah, this is why one of our most oft-recurring jokes during development is "nice sampler lol".

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And thanks to everyone who liked the tune! Appreciate it. <3 I was so in the mindset of only taking credit as a team that it didn't occur to me that I should at least take it for the music maybe. I added a link in the first post and in the video description now.

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Whirlwind live demo starts about minute 50 -

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Echoes in the Attic wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 2:47 am Change length without changing pitch or change pitch/tune without changing length. I don't think I've ever seen one without the other in a sample with timestretch.
Slicing a sample and retrig the slices is a fine way to timestretch, you can't go as far as ElasticAudio goes...
There was also a sample resync method to repitch in the early days of timestretching but now it is part of granular synthesis.
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Nice work, you are really a great crew.
You can't always get what you waaaant...

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wikter wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 9:04 pm
Echoes in the Attic wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 2:47 am Change length without changing pitch or change pitch/tune without changing length. I don't think I've ever seen one without the other in a sample with timestretch.
Slicing a sample and retrig the slices is a fine way to timestretch, you can't go as far as ElasticAudio goes...
There was also a sample resync method to repitch in the early days of timestretching but now it is part of granular synthesis.
Slicing is not time stretching at all. Talking about melodic instruments here, not loops.

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Which sampler has the best timestretch, falcon?

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ere2learn wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 10:06 pm Which sampler has the best timestretch, falcon?
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Audacity...

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Echoes in the Attic wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 10:01 pm
wikter wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 9:04 pm
Echoes in the Attic wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 2:47 am Change length without changing pitch or change pitch/tune without changing length. I don't think I've ever seen one without the other in a sample with timestretch.
Slicing a sample and retrig the slices is a fine way to timestretch, you can't go as far as ElasticAudio goes...
There was also a sample resync method to repitch in the early days of timestretching but now it is part of granular synthesis.
Slicing is not time stretching at all. Talking about melodic instruments here, not loops.
Slicing allows for time stretching, or let's say in other fancy words:
Time duration alteration
Time expansion/compression
Beat adaptive
...
And yes, it's useful for beats and melodies. It was in 1997, and it is already a way to go.
Use Trackers first.
https://sonicstate.com/news/2022/02/01/ ... -trackers/

PS: I already know that you want timestretching, you need to read the first post, the answer. Andreya did a good job.
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No, if i slice a file into 10 pieces is not gonna magically get longer when I speed up the tempo, gaps appear
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...unless tails of slices are made longer by using short ping pong loops (which is what ReCycle does).

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Recycle was a "hitech" solution by the time.
I wonder if ShortcircuitXT could handle sampleslicing like that...
Btw, crossfade loops do the job easier.

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Crossfaded loops also require more CPU since they need to play two parts of the sample simultaneously. If a ping pong loop works out it's definitely going to be a good enough solution.

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