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[andypryce]

Battery 4 surely does not suck..

What don't you like about it?

Did you ever work with version 3? Then you'd know.

For starters:


And there's more than that.
Besides, Battery is dead, there's not gonna be any further development (semi-officially confirmed by NI in their own forums).

I wonder which genius decided to remove the in context preview.. One of the reasons I moved to Tal Drum

[NothanUmber]

Kontakt is still state of the art. And Reaktor is also still extremely impressive - could benefit from a UI overhaul for high DPI screens though. The synths are also still great, some would be even greater with MPE support. And Kore was really cool. Until they cancelled it...
So, a lot of potential that would be worthwhile to bring into 2026. Absynth was a good start (and an insta purchase for me).

[mi-os]

Battery 4 surely does not suck..

What don't you like about it?

Did you ever work with version 3? Then you'd know.

For starters:


And there's more than that.
Besides, Battery is dead, there's not gonna be any further development (semi-officially confirmed by NI in their own forums).

I wonder which genius decided to remove the in context preview.. One of the reasons I moved to Tal Drum

You can still preview samples in cells without actually loading them. Maybe i'm missing something?

There are things that were better in older Battery versions, sure. Round robin handling, for instance. Although B4 is still doing its job here, there is no question that B5 would be very welcome.

[Sascha Franck]

This is an 11 year old video that everyone has watched a few times here, a few things have changed since then. And many things in the video are really not so important.

No, pretty much nothing has changed, the points made in the video are still valid.
And to me they are important, too - especially the preview function.

Also I asked you what YOU don't like about battery 4, not what is different from battery 3. What exactly stops you from using it to make a really good track?

1) The things mentioned in the video. Btw, add to this that when you close the UI and reopen it, the top left cell will always be selected, regardless of which cell you fooled around with before. That's just super embarrassing and incredibly annoying.

2) I want to know a product is taken care of. Not the case anymore with Battery. So chances are it won't run at all anymore once I need to upgrade my computer.

3) Others have better features. Such as a slicer. Which they could have added - but instead they dumbed down everything.

And fwiw, it's completely irrelevant whether I can make a "good track" with it or not. By that logic, pretty much no software ever needed to be improved.

[Sascha Franck]

You can still preview samples in cells without actually loading them. Maybe i'm missing something?

No, you can't preview them "in context" anymore without them being permanently loaded.
Let alone in B3 you had an option to preview them with or without parameters - which was absolutely excellent, too.

[Sascha Franck]

I wonder which genius decided to remove the in context preview.

One of the idiots working at NI with absolutely no clue. Of which there are several, unfortunately.

One of the reasons I moved to Tal Drum

Currently trying to decide between TAL-Drum and Speedrum - but preview in context in Speedrum is as within Battery 4 so far. The developer however said he'd be looking at it.
Fortunately I'm not in a hurry, so I'll wait for a while. What I like with Speedrum is having all relevant tweaking options on one page - with TAL-Drum you need to flip pages quite a bit.

[Funky40]

One of the idiots working at NI with absolutely no clue. Of which there are several, unfortunately.

(sorry, i took out the quote context / by intention)
yeah, there are several of us out there who do feel this way.

This firm has not been in good hands. On several upper levels. => Since years.


and now they shall repair in literally no time what they could not fix in years ? (or didn´t wanted to). I don´t see this happen.
And most folks might already have bought Komplete.....making old dreams come true. And don´t even use it. Most young people use cracks imo. That´s my impression. And in times when nobody can anylonger afford accomodation, or just barely....we surely go and buy sample librarys like stupids.......



I still only use Absynth and Reaktor.
Btw. my first two plugins ever. AND: what drove me towards setting up a PC for music making.
That was over 1000 bucks for free for them, from me.
Make "this" a 100 thousand people, and you got serious amounts of cash for free.

They all underestimate such factors ! I do claim that.

[mi-os]

You can still preview samples in cells without actually loading them. Maybe i'm missing something?

No, you can't preview them "in context" anymore without them being permanently loaded.
Let alone in B3 you had an option to preview them with or without parameters - which was absolutely excellent, too.

Yeah, i'm so accustomed to the new behavior that i missed that quirk. You either have to remember the last loaded sample or use a linked cell for preview purposes or simply save the project/kit before changing anything. It sucks, but it's not the end of the world.

The fact that B4 is worse than B3 could be the earliest sign of problems at NI.

[Grizzellda]

I do not know what is going on with them. You know what though? Maybe they are over weight, or bloated...dunno. It would probably help if they slimmed down, just totally focus on a few key products, keep their loyal customers close.

The hardware stuff is beautiful, do not believe it will go away.

And what of Reaktor, all that has been invested in that, also the user library stuff.

And the awesome stuff that runs in Reaktor...Molekular, etcetera.

This stuff is worth something!!!

[digitalboytn]

The fact that B4 is worse than B3 could be the earliest sign of problems at NI.

I must be one of the rare exceptions here...

I much prefer Battery 4 to any version that preceded it...

The workflow is so much faster and the new DSP they ported over is top shelf....

The built in effects are so good that you don't have to rely on any external processing if you don't want to....

Everybody has a point of view and that's OK,but Battery 4 is a workhorse that I use almost every day and I think it's a winner...

I love it

The only thing I would like is a resizable GUI

[mi-os]

The fact that B4 is worse than B3 could be the earliest sign of problems at NI.

I must be one of the rare exceptions here...

I much prefer Battery 4 to any version that preceded it...

The workflow is so much faster and the new DSP they ported over is top shelf....

The built in effects are so good that you don't have to rely on any external processing if you don't want to....

Everybody has a point of view and that's OK,but Battery 4 is a workhorse that I use almost every day and I think it's a winner...

I love it

The only thing I would like is a resizable GUI

I also use Battery 4 as my main drum machine in every project. However, there are some aspects that are definitely worse than in older versions, none of them are real showstoppers though.

Modern, resizable GUIs are what we have been wanting for all of their plugins for years.

[bermudagold]

In the drum sampler threads and convos, I've always found it surprising groove agent doesn't come up much...it's basically a multi-timbral backbone...and backbone seems like as full featured a drum designer u can get...another one that no one seems to consider is armory

[Grizzellda]

Groove Agent is fabulous, looking forward to see what the next developments will be with it. A resizable GUI, vector based, is what I would request.

Also, MuLab's drum module, driven by the step sequencer has considerable possibilities. But MuLab does not come with alot of samples, and Groove Agent does.

[bermudagold]

Groove Agent is fabulous, looking forward to see what the next developments will be with it. A resizable GUI, vector based, is what I would request.

Also, MuLab's drum module, driven by the step sequencer has considerable possibilities. But MuLab does not come with alot of samples, and Groove Agent does.

yeah like all things Mutools...Mudrum is well executed and underrated

[sellyoursoul]

Groove Agent is fabulous, looking forward to see what the next developments will be with it. A resizable GUI, vector based, is what I would request.

I guess it never got working fractional scaling?