Entanglement: Quantum Wavefunction Synth (VST3, AU, Standalone)

[kraster]

I absolutely love this.

I do prefer this to the m4l version which I tweaked a bit but the UI in this makes all the difference.

I don't find it in any way limiting. Quite the contrary I find it incredibly open ended and can get all kinds of weird and wonderful sounds out of it that I'd struggle to get out of other synths.

I think the key is not to focus too much on the subtractive end of it and -similar to an FM synth- getting the base oscillator sound to do all the heavy lifting. There are so many controls to create the fundamental shapes and alter the oscillator that it's kind of overwhelming.

I use the filters more as sound refinement than relying on them for basic shaping.

One small addition I'd love to see is the ability to modulate the spread control with LFOs/Modulations.

[ndivuyo]

Hmm.. I'm a little late to the party but have now been testing the VST3 demo for a while. Quite frankly, I'm having a hard time justifying the asking price for the plugin version. Yes, it's a new novel oscillator/synthesis method but the thing as a whole leaves a lot to be desired.

I'm not a fan of the limited modulation setup. I'm also bummed out by the less than stellar filters. Why on earth can't I modulate the output volume of each filter pair when in parallel mode? That's a huge loss in possibilities right there. I'd also really like a global 5 band EQ at the output so that we could quickly tailor the output to reign in some wildness.

This just feels very half-baked as it is now. Tremendous potential but the actual execution as a whole is quite weak.. it just doesn't feel like it's worth 60€ + taxes for the synth. I may pay 30€ + tax for the M4L version though, as it's dead simple to group things into a rack in Live and thus get a much more competent device.

Fair criticisms/input. Just to clarify the price should be closer to 50 euros not 60 (its $60 USD), and happy to email me directly for paypal to avoid VAT.

For your other complaints some clarification that might become feature requests and some of my responses:
"I'm not a fan of the limited modulation setup"
What are you feeling is missing from the modulators specifically?

"Why on earth can't I modulate the output volume of each filter pair when in parallel mode"
If you're asking why: I didn't add it because honestly I am not even used to seeing that as an internal modulation destination. Instead you would modulate the volumes of the sources which you control how much volume of them enters the filters. You can of course map/automate them externally. It could be a FR if people strongly think it should be included as well!

"I'm also bummed out by the less than stellar filters"
Like the sounds of the filters or the lack of options. If the sound, did you try the ladder filter modes? If the lack of options, I did design this more for using the simulation itself to achieve many affects complex filtering would, but beyond that I have on my FR list to add more shapes. Clarity and specifics in your response (such as which filter shapes you'd like to see) could help add to that list

" I'd also really like a global 5 band EQ at the output so that we could quickly tailor the output to reign in some wildness"
I could add this although more realistically I will probably do three bands feels more appropriate for an internal synth EQing.

TBH/transparency: I personally like to add as little extra FX chaining to a synth to make it kind of standalone in itself focussed on what it does as one piece in a signal flow. I know a lot of users might disagree and want many FX and other post processing all in one place in a synth to make it sound finished without adding anything more.
I generally create instruments from my own vision of working with them which is why I don't include all the typical things, and often even give different unconventional paths to similar synthesis techniques with different/unique results using the unconventional system and dynamics of the synths I make.
That said I am totally fine with the feedback (and yes some things might still genuinely be missing especially for some users, not trying to invalidate those requests) and incorporating more features if users strongly desire them. Just explaining where I am coming from in the first place when designing this for both your response and others that may be wondering.

thanks for any additional clarity!

[aMUSEd]

Any chance of getting Grain Forest as a plugin?

[ndivuyo]

Any chance of getting Grain Forest as a plugin?

No plans for that one specifically ATM, though I have quite a few that could become!

My next VST/etc plan for a device will combine a few of my previous sample based ones into one hell of an experimental sample based suite. Using physics, photoshop style drawing, concatenative options, machine learning and a lot of modes and ways to work with it. Pretty pumped to make that one it'll be a hell of an instrument. Just didn't want to jump into it for my first VST. But it won't be grain forest

[VariKusBrainZ]

One small addition I'd love to see is the ability to modulate the spread control with LFOs/Modulations.

Im modulating this in Bitwig, a technique Bitwigers use with loads of synths to turn simple devices into crazy beasts

[kraster]

Any chance of getting Grain Forest as a plugin?

No plans for that one specifically ATM, though I have quite a few that could become!

My next VST/etc plan for a device will combine a few of my previous sample based ones into one hell of an experimental sample based suite. Using physics, photoshop style drawing, concatenative options, machine learning and a lot of modes and ways to work with it. Pretty pumped to make that one it'll be a hell of an instrument. Just didn't want to jump into it for my first VST. But it won't be grain forest

So a kind of coalescence/Iota/Samsara/Superposition hybrid?

Sign me up.

[kraster]

One small addition I'd love to see is the ability to modulate the spread control with LFOs/Modulations.

Im modulating this in Bitwig, a technique Bitwigers use with loads of synths to turn simple devices into crazy beasts

I can do the same in Live but I always like modulation to be internal.

[Dalle]

I was a beta tester and absolutely love this synth. I would urge everyone to explore all the unique and weird things it can do before asking for more features.

[wasi]

Great experimental synth, I love it! Please port more of your stuff over from m4L. I have Live, but I don't want to buy plugins that are constrained to that DAW forever.

I probably wont do a 1:1 remake like this idea but i am planning by the end of year to create a sample based device combining many of my physics/drawing/ML ideas from the past into one hell of a crazy sampler workstation so stay tuned for that one which wiol be a lot more on the experimental and fun side of things!

Wow that's very cool!