Native Instruments file for insolvency...

[sellyoursoul]

On Mac I would say easily the best is the autosampler in Mainstage/Logic.
It's a sin that Apple never have released Mainstage for the iPads, but have a cut down version of Logic for it.

It's also a sin that Apple limits ipads from running full featured software and that they limit memory and ssd capacity in Macbooks, charging extortion prices for decent specs. But that's Apple.

[IvyBirds]

I like the Autosampler in Gig Performer for this because it is dead simple to use and just makes WAV files I can use in anything, I can easily set low and high nite priorities, tell it to whatever notes I want at whatever velocities

how many velocity layers do you set for your normal uses ?
And how many notes per octave ?
( i understand what "your" uses might be most often. You´ve been vocal...so i can adapt to mine)

and thanks for the infos. some useful hints already


sorry for further OT

It really depends

My general setup which is probably over kill is 3 layers ( piano, mezzo, and forte) and 4 notes per octave. For some sounds however especially pads there is no need to do more than a single velocity layer and they often sound better with 1 or 2 notes per octave.

That's my general settings Some sounds/patches

I also Autosample differently for different "special" reasons, these are usually in addition to the the general use samples. The first one is for archival purposes. These patches are extra special to me for whatever reason and I want to sample them the best way possible, for these I sample every single note with 6 layers, again this is over kill but I have it archived for future use

I am also a big fan of plugins that emulate vintage samplers, especially the three Arturia ones. They have restrictions on sample length (30 seconds CMI and Synclavier) and can't do velocity switching. There are certain things I do for these and tricks on how I use the autosampler with it. I will be happy to share if anyone wants that information

[carrieres]

Yes, I would like to know your workflow using Arturia's sampler

[kraster]

Forgive me if this has already been posted:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-i-th ... =share_via

I don't agree with eveything he says, but it is a very interesting read never the less.
rsp

Thanks for the link! Very interesting and insightful article. I didn't realize that the private equity purchaser of NI simply stuck the price of purchasing it onto NI itself as debt. I imagine no new potential purchaser would be willing to accept that debt situation as part of the deal. But I can imagine the current private equity firm finding reason in spinning off components of NI at bargain prices just to lessen the private equity firm's loss....

That's how private equity always works. They front some of the cash themselves (10-20%) and then convince others to invest. That debt is then loaded onto the target company usually in the shape of a merger with a holding company

There has been a view that NI failed because they weren't making money on their products. They were but nowhere near enough to deal with the debt they were sidled with.

NI's problems are almost all from absolute s**t-for-brains investment decisions by people who do not understand the industry. I'll speculate and guess that they saw higher margins during the pandemic and assumed that was the norm. Either way they screwed up royally. As I've said previously on this thread private equity work best with predictable companies or services like utilities. Volatile industries like music software are much more of a gamble.

So the in this scenario the PE company will lose all the money they put in themselves and the rest will most likely to be a debt to equity swap.

I do think the guy in the article is overstating the obsolescence of NI's software. And he's not exactly a neutral contributor.

I think we're all shouting into the wind. No one really seems to know how the current private equity firm structured its deal to buy Native Instruments. And no one seems to really know whether the private equity firm is better off simply dissolving NI or selling off its component parts to lessen the private equity firm's loss. My own hope, of course, is that component parts will be sold off at a deep discount and made profitable again. But who knows?

While none of us know the specifics there's definitely a few assumptions we can make and also a few certainties.

The PE deal is almost certainly a leveraged buyout since that what this PE company does and there's reports of them consulting with a legal firm to negotiate financing with creditors to buy NI.

It's also 100% certain that they have absolutely no say in what happens to the company now. That's the whole point of appointing someone to manage insolvency. They've almost certainly lost all the equity they've put in and everything going forward will be to come to an arrangement with the debtors about how recoup their losses. That will mean taking a hit and most likely a debt for equity swap.

The main unknown is what shape that will take. The company could be broken apart and sold off as individual products. Kontakt is almost certainly the most valuable asset.

Or the company could be kept intact as an ongoing concern with some trimming of various products/services.

Personally, I think the latter is more likely than a full breakup since NI is probably more valuable as an ecosystem based brand.

[El°HYM]

A new message by his majesty, the honorable King of Jupiter himself. Listen closely folks!

Over the last year or so I’ve had a lot of time to think about where digital pro audio & software are heading — technically, creatively, and culturally.
What’s becoming very clear to me: the next chapter won’t be written by stacking more legacy plugins on top of each other, or by treating great audio brands like passive financial assets.
The future belongs to fair platforms that understand sound as a system — grounded in iconic styles, built for real-time workflows, and designed for the way producers actually want to work today: tracking, mixing, mastering, immersive audio, modern genres, fast decision-making.
One thing I’m deeply convinced of: in the years ahead, value in pro audio won’t be defined by archived source code or legacy binaries alone — but by living platforms, active producer ecosystems, and the ability to evolve sound in real time. Assistance is here to stay and welcome by many — but control and final authority will always belong to professionals, artists, humans.
And increasingly, true value only lives in these platforms and in the long-term relationships that real leaders build with their communities — the trust, continuity, and shared direction that can’t be transferred in a transaction.
I’ve quietly been working on exactly that for a while now. New technology, new ideas, and a team that remembers why authenticity mattered in the first place - but without nostalgia, and without repeating the past.
To the partner companies and people I’ve worked with over the years: you’ll recognize soon where this is going. Timing matters — and when the timing is right, some currently closed doors may feel very open again.
Some things can be bought, some can be tweaked — but really great systems only work long-term when they’re led by people who actually built and them.
More soon.
Dirk

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=25 ... 4491266886

[Funky40]

vs. auto sampling offTopic:

@carrieres, @ivybirds

please lets go over to this thread here with the autosampler offtopic
viewtopic.php?p=9206723#p9206723

i took my quote already over.
@carrieres, please consider same

[Sascha Franck]

It's a sin that Apple never have released Mainstage for the iPads, but have a cut down version of Logic for it.

Yeah, especially given that Mainstage is almost a common thing on stages, it makes me wonder as well.
Maybe it's because most keyboarders want a certain library or two for their live performances - and there's very little available for iOS.

[HM]

8Dio with statement

On the surface they say "take a deep breath", but between the lines they also say that they
are ready to move on: "format comes, and format goes" ,.. but they are ready needed be

Seems that in due time they made this Soundpaint technology, pays of soon I guess

East West and UVI on the right track also ,.. and more to follow I am sure

Full message here:

https://8dio.com/blogs/news/soundpaint- ... instrumets?

Screenshot 2026-02-24 152639.jpg

[IvyBirds]

vs. auto sampling offTopic:

@carrieres, @ivybirds

please lets go over to this thread here with the autosampler offtopic
viewtopic.php?p=9206723#p9206723

i took my quote already over.
@carrieres, please consider same

That's a Mac OS specific thread and I don't use Apple products

[HM]

vs. auto sampling offTopic:

@carrieres, @ivybirds

please lets go over to this thread here with the autosampler offtopic
viewtopic.php?p=9206723#p9206723

i took my quote already over.
@carrieres, please consider same

A little bit arrogant pointing elsewhere, and then to a specific MAC-topic ,.. I use PC

Auto-sample is very highly topic, considered the situation, format, and ways to move on

Much more topic than speculations about firm-economy, and involved banks, etc, etc,..

[Bill Romain]

I don't use any of their products, so I'm not losing anything, and there are malicious rumors that Arturia is now over the moon and celebrating

[fedexnman]

I don't use any of their products, so I'm not losing anything, and there are malicious rumors that Arturia is now over the moon and celebrating

Why would a competitor celebrate something that can in turn happen to them ?

[machinesworking]

8Dio with statement

On the surface they say "take a deep breath", but between the lines they also say that they
are ready to move on: "format comes, and format goes" ,.. but they are ready needed be

Seems that in due time they made this Soundpaint technology, pays of soon I guess

East West and UVI on the right track also ,.. and more to follow I am sure

EW made their own proprietary sample engine decades ago at this point, and UVI have always had Machfive, a colaberation with MOTU that eventually became Falcon, and the free UVI player. Neither of them are on the "right track" in terms of splitting from NI, they've been competing directly with them from the beginning.

No one knows exactly what will happen with NI, likely we'll know more in the next 3-6 months. I guess that doesn't stop wild speculation though.

[digitalboytn]

No one knows exactly what will happen with NI, likely we'll know more in the next 3-6 months. I guess that doesn't stop wild speculation though.

The talk of NI's death is greatly exaggerated....or something along those lines....

All of this useless speculation serves no purpose,other than raising the anxiety levels of the peeps who are subscribing to the conspiracy theories...

NI need a capital injection so they are going through a restructuring process and I'm quite confident that most of the products will have survived on the other side of the process...

They are just too good to let wither and die on the vine...

There is real value in the various trade marks,the DSP & IP and the subsequent products...

In the meantime,it's business (almost) as usual at NI and it's a similar story in my world...

Every day I am using the NI software,just like I've always done and it doesn't seem to be broken and it hasn't blown up yet...

And they still sound great

[HM]

8Dio with statement

On the surface they say "take a deep breath", but between the lines they also say that they
are ready to move on: "format comes, and format goes" ,.. but they are ready needed be

Seems that in due time they made this Soundpaint technology, pays of soon I guess

East West and UVI on the right track also ,.. and more to follow I am sure

EW made their own proprietary sample engine decades ago at this point, and UVI have always had Machfive, a colaberation with MOTU that eventually became Falcon, and the free UVI player. Neither of them are on the "right track" in terms of splitting from NI, they've been competing directly with them from the beginning.

No one knows exactly what will happen with NI, likely we'll know more in the next 3-6 months. I guess that doesn't stop wild speculation though.

I never said they was "splitting", just they was on the right track from start, or way back in time

No one knows about kontakt, obviously, but one thing we could learn is that format-dependancy
and monoply sucks, when builded this way. A solution, soon, would not even be a real solution,
becourse when will the same situation apear next time ?

We invest much time and money in our tools, and more so the developers, the least we could
expect in return is that its all solid and predictable, and that we are not being led around by
the nose