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wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 11:16 am

Bones 1, DCrown 0.

Next round.

Sourcery4545 · Post by **Sourcery4545** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 11:34 am

NO. Humans are maybe destroying something - humanity ain't.
Thank you all for your honest words.
Yeah, you do not care. Now, that's honest.
Well not that honest - if you don´t care, why are you discussing it.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:20 pm

Sourcery4545 wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 11:34 am NO. Humans are maybe destroying something - humanity ain't.
Thank you all for your honest words.
Yeah, you do not care. Now, that's honest.
Well not that honest - if you don´t care, why are you discussing it.

Because that's what we do here. We discuss things.

Sourcery4545 · Post by **Sourcery4545** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:28 pm

cool you are discussing things you do not care about - that explains a lot.

Zeisner · Post by **Zeisner** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:30 pm

Sourcery4545 wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:28 pm cool you are discussing things you do not care about - that explains a lot.

Human bots. We had "AI" long before AI.

DCrown · Post by **DCrown** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:33 pm

"No you don't, you can load it into your DAW, choose a preset you like, load up a MIDI file you downloaded off the 'net and drop it in. Voila! You're making music with an instrument. All you need to know is how to drag 'n' drop and press "Play". Putting a record onto a turntable is more technical"

Oh, I see obviously we have different views on what making music means. Using mainly midi-files is not creating music by yourself, it is just using something someone else has created. And there is always a high probability other producers might use the exact same midi file, where is the originality, where is the creativity ?
That's why a lot of Avenger presets make no sense, vocal phrases singing "I feel so good on the Dancefloor ", if 156 used it on some production, well, what a originality!.
I just prefer old school, whereas you include new technologies that make no sense to me .
Both ways are legit.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:33 pm

Sourcery4545 wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:28 pm cool you are discussing things you do not care about - that explains a lot.

It's not a question of caring. It's a question of seeing an absolutely ridiculous thread title and pointing out how ridiculous it is. AI is not going to be the end of musicians. The whole concept is absurd.

DCrown · Post by **DCrown** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:37 pm

wagtunes wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:33 pm
Sourcery4545 wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:28 pm cool you are discussing things you do not care about - that explains a lot.
It's not a question of caring. It's a question of seeing an absolutely ridiculous thread title and pointing out how ridiculous it is. AI is not going to be the end of musicians. The whole concept is absurd.

whereas blindness is not absurd, I could list 20 more examples that ai is ruining present and future, I see it everyday, blindness is a fact or a way to not wanna see things how they are.

Zeisner · Post by **Zeisner** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:40 pm

DCrown wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:33 pm I just prefer old school, whereas you include new technologies that make no sense to me .
Both ways are legit.

There's always those who prefer the original and those who prefer the imitation.

Sourcery4545 · Post by **Sourcery4545** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:43 pm

Don't argue with fools, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with their experience.

Zeisner · Post by **Zeisner** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:48 pm

DCrown wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 12:37 pm whereas blindness is not absurd, I could list 20 more examples that ai is ruining present and future

You mean the future of industrial civilization which will collapse soon anyway? AI helps accelerating the process which is ultimately a good thing. The sooner this civilization collapses, the less likely a runaway greenhouse effect.

Sourcery4545 · Post by **Sourcery4545** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 2:17 pm

Let's have a huge crisis where everything that was good before, will get destroyed, too.
Great idea!

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 3:31 pm

DCrown wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 4:47 am yes, you will get your personal ai assistent there.
First you will tell assistent what to post,
then assistent will give you several suggestions and you just choose,
finally assistent will have complete control over you and post whatever it wants to without you being involved any more.
A time saver, great, what will you do with that much free time?!

fyi you post more like an ai than anyone else here, are you a bot?

Zeisner · Post by **Zeisner** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 3:52 pm

Sourcery4545 wrote: Tue Feb 24, 2026 2:17 pm Let's have a huge crisis where everything that was good before, will get destroyed, too.
Great idea!

There's always collateral damage. It's also not an idea, just a prognosis based on empirical data based on the way we live.

Thought experiment: How much are you willing and able to sacrifice so "artists" like Bones or wagtunes can continue making AI slop? Because that's industrial civilization in a nushell. How much?

Sourcery4545 · Post by **Sourcery4545** » Tue Feb 24, 2026 4:17 pm

Yeah, lets just discuss bad situations, yeah, that´ s what I call FUD.
Why not discuss ways to analyze and solve problems?
Why not talking about ways to stop this AI madness.
It is very simple:
just stop higher, faster, stronger, harder!
We talked about the end of the era of human beings - this is not some collateral damage.
My last words here on this very special forum where very special people are discussing very special things.

Don't argue with fools, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with their experience.

If AI replaces musicians, does the entire plugin industry die with them?