Native Instruments file for insolvency...

[HM]

No one knows exactly what will happen with NI, likely we'll know more in the next 3-6 months. I guess that doesn't stop wild speculation though.

Another german company, Magix, whent through the same procces, as far as I remember
it was more than 12 mounths ,.. things ended up being split and seperated ,.. some of the
software or versions being discontinued ,.. or just not maintained proberly in the long run

[IvyBirds]

I don't use any of their products, so I'm not losing anything, and there are malicious rumors that Arturia is now over the moon and celebrating

Why would a competitor celebrate something that can in turn happen to them ?

Unless Arturia chooses to sell itself to a Private Equity Firm or take on deep debt it's doubtful

Not saying that are celebrating but I wouldn't doubt it. I would if I were them as NI was one of their largest competitors

I also think they would make a play to buy Kontact and maybe some other instruments to add to the V collection

Or in a world where Kontact either disappears or is in limbo take the opportunity to build a fully fledged sampler type instrument

Right now it's hard to build and sell such a beast because the question would always be why should I use the new plugin when I already have Kontact, but if Kontact disappeared or is in limbo that question becomes, what else can I use instead of Kontact

[audiojunkie]

OK. I made a thread for everyone (All OSes) to discuss Samplers, autosamplers, sample tools, etc. I've tried to leave it wide open for everyone to be able to share:

viewtopic.php?t=628228

[jamcat]

This is why it's foolish as hell to pay for a software subscription.

If and when Brainworx ceases to exist or Reaktor is discontinued because of this, people who have been paying for a Plugin Alliance subscription or Native Instruments 360 will lose access to their plugins, as if they never owned them, which also means they will lose access to all of the projects they've used any of those plugins on and work they've done over the years.

We as a community need to take this as a wakeup call and boycott all subscription plans, and let audio developers know that if they want our money, they must provide perpetual licenses that will live on, even after they no longer do.

[nightjar]

This is why it's foolish as hell to pay for a software subscription.

If and when Brainworx ceases to exist or Reaktor is discontinued because of this, people who have been paying for a Plugin Alliance subscription or Native Instruments 360 will lose access to their plugins, as if they never owned them, which also means they will lose access to all of the projects they've used any of those plugins on and work they've done over the years.

We as a community need to take this as a wakeup call and boycott all subscription plans, and let audio developers know that if they want our money, they must provide perpetual licenses that will live on, even after they no longer do.

Good project habit is to always save your projects as wet/dry audio stems and MIDI.

[mumpcake]

Unless Arturia chooses to sell itself to a Private Equity Firm or take on deep debt it's doubtful

Not saying that are celebrating but I wouldn't doubt it. I would if I were them as NI was one of their largest competitors

The thing is there is not a lot of overlap between the two companies' software lines. I mean, they both have an 1176 compressor and a DX-7 and a Minimoog and that Lexicon reverb, but considering the number of products each company has, that's not a lot and there is no shortage of companies offering their versions of the same models.

If NI goes down I don't know that Arturia is going to be picking up that much business from former NI customers. For example, I'm pretty sure that the money that I would have spent on Komplete updates won't end up buying software from Arturia.

I think the only way Arturia celebrates NI's demise is if they can acquire their IP. And then a week later when they figure out how much technical debt they purchased, they might have buyers remorse.

[ksandvik]

Why should Arturia pick up NI as their product line is very similar? Does not make sense.

[audiojunkie]

This is why it's foolish as hell to pay for a software subscription.

If and when Brainworx ceases to exist or Reaktor is discontinued because of this, people who have been paying for a Plugin Alliance subscription or Native Instruments 360 will lose access to their plugins, as if they never owned them, which also means they will lose access to all of the projects they've used any of those plugins on and work they've done over the years.

We as a community need to take this as a wakeup call and boycott all subscription plans, and let audio developers know that if they want our money, they must provide perpetual licenses that will live on, even after they no longer do.

I’ve been boycotting subscriptions and bad copy protection for well over a decade.

Check out my sig

[audiojunkie]

This is why it's foolish as hell to pay for a software subscription.

If and when Brainworx ceases to exist or Reaktor is discontinued because of this, people who have been paying for a Plugin Alliance subscription or Native Instruments 360 will lose access to their plugins, as if they never owned them, which also means they will lose access to all of the projects they've used any of those plugins on and work they've done over the years.

We as a community need to take this as a wakeup call and boycott all subscription plans, and let audio developers know that if they want our money, they must provide perpetual licenses that will live on, even after they no longer do.

Good project habit is to always save your projects as wet/dry audio stems and MIDI.

Yep! Well said!

[digitalboytn]

We invest much time and money in our tools...

The shake up of NI should serve as a wake up that the overriding factor is to invest in the skills and the process of creating and producing music and NOT in the tools...

A solid skill set and a general workflow is transferrable and different tools can be substituted to achieve the overall objective....

Just like mama said...

"Don't put all of your eggs in one basket son"...

Especially when a private equity company has taken over the hen house

[Weasel-Boy]

We as a community need to take this as a wakeup call and boycott all subscription plans, and let audio developers know that if they want our money, they must provide perpetual licenses that will live on, even after they no longer do.

Well said.

[Grizzellda]

This is why it's foolish as hell to pay for a software subscription.

If and when Brainworx ceases to exist or Reaktor is discontinued because of this, people who have been paying for a Plugin Alliance subscription or Native Instruments 360 will lose access to their plugins, as if they never owned them, which also means they will lose access to all of the projects they've used any of those plugins on and work they've done over the years.

We as a community need to take this as a wakeup call and boycott all subscription plans, and let audio developers know that if they want our money, they must provide perpetual licenses that will live on, even after they no longer do.

Politely will disagree here. So what if you think you own the software, but now time has proceeded on and it will no longer function, but hey! You own it! And good for you!

I support the subscription model because if you are dealing with a solid company, good folks, it should really just work. Everything current and modern.

[Zeisner]

Good project habit is to always save your projects as wet/dry audio stems and MIDI.

Very good tip. This has saved me several times.

[IvyBirds]

This is why it's foolish as hell to pay for a software subscription.

If and when Brainworx ceases to exist or Reaktor is discontinued because of this, people who have been paying for a Plugin Alliance subscription or Native Instruments 360 will lose access to their plugins, as if they never owned them, which also means they will lose access to all of the projects they've used any of those plugins on and work they've done over the years.

We as a community need to take this as a wakeup call and boycott all subscription plans, and let audio developers know that if they want our money, they must provide perpetual licenses that will live on, even after they no longer do.

If and when Native Instruments goes under people like me who paid for and own Komplete lose access to their plugins, as if they never owned them, which also means they will lose access to all of the projects they've used any of those plugins on and work they've done over the years.

If I can't buy a new computer and install Komplete that's a problem as I have lost access to my plugins.

This is a major issue that effects everyone not just subscriptions

Subscriptions can actually help mitigate this risk, because instead of dropping many hundreds or even thousands on plugins you can loose access to despite "owning them" you can rent them from month to month, and pause or cancel at will

Save the stems, save the MIDI, and Autosample your presets

[audiojunkie]

This is why it's foolish as hell to pay for a software subscription.

Politely will disagree here. So what if you think you own the software, but now time has proceeded on and it will no longer function, but hey! You own it! And good for you!

If "time has proceeded on and it will no longer function" in Windows, then I just run it in WINE on Linux and continue to use the software as if nothing changed.