Fender Studio Pro 8 Released

[heliacal]

Urantia book states that life patterns are the design of the Creator Son of the local (LOCAL!!!) universe.

However, this "life plasm" is dead matter, until it is activated by the female universe energy. which is known as the Divine Minister.

Only when The Divine Minister breathes the "breath of life" into the life patterns... will anything happen!

The Divine Minister is a personalized portion of the Conjoint Actor, or Infinite Spirit.

Conjoined Actor "creates a path for lightning".

So, God, if ya like.

You meant to say "Creator Sun".

[CapnLockheed]

Sweet Baby Jeezus!! This thread has gone totally of the rails and the crazy train's headed for the cliff!!

So....I'm pump the brakes and get it back on track.

As per usual, Fender has screwed the pooch. NOTHING can be done to make plugins that display just fine in PRESONUS S1 V6 from being microscopic in Fender Studio. The above mentioned solutions did, in fact, make Studio Pro itself display better....but not these plugins. I have and use many other hosts, (including the most recent release of Cubase), and none of them have this problem. So, yet another reason to not upgrade.

See attached pics of the same plugin instantiated in v6 & v8.......and, actually, on screen, the gui of the plugin on 8 is WAY smaller. Impossible to use.





One rocket scientist on the "Presonus/Fender" forum suggested that:

Resize the Plugin with the bottom right corner, close it, then reopen it. Is it retaining scale?

To which I replied:

Thanks for the suggestion but I'm not a noob. I've been working with plugins for decades. Many, like this one, are not resizable. Those that are, generally, have a series of parallel lines in the lower right hand corner indicating that feature, (see pic). And, as I thought I explained in my initial post, the problem is not the plugin itself, or the the display settings in my pc. The plugin displays properly in at least a dozen other hosts including Presonus Studio One 6.6.4. The ONLY host that displays this, and other plugins, in a microscopically minute size is Fender Studio Pro.


Then a Mod stepped in and said gee....looks like you have a legit problem, (No sh#t!). He then asked my to give a full list of ALL the plugins that had this problem. To which I replied:

Thanks Bob! That's a very generous offer. But, I don't have the time or inclination to test hundreds of plugins in Fender Studio Pro 8.

My main DAW is Presonus Studio One Pro 6.6.4 and the problem does not exist in that program or Cubase or any of the other hosts I use. So, for me personally, it is a non-issue. It is simply another reason not to "upgrade" to Fender Studio Pro 8. As others have reported

this issue here and on other pro audio forums, I trust the German "Fender" software team will get it sorted out eventually.

I can happily report that "Fender"_Universal_Control_v5_0_0_110112 (geez even Presonus didn't feel the need to slap their name on that!), is working beautifully in Presonus Studio Pro 6.6.4 and with my 22, 44, and 1818VSL interfaces.

Whew.....what a sh#tshow. Almost as good as Trump's SOTU speech....LOL!!

[RexXx]

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NOTHING can be done to make plugins that display just fine in PRESONUS S1 V6 from being microscopic in Fender Studio. ...

See attached pics of the same plugin instantiated in v6 & v8.......and, actually, on screen, the gui of the plugin on 8 is WAY smaller. Impossible to use.




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In Studio Pro v8 you have the option in the plugin window to "Enable System DPI Scaling" (often overlooked). Works for some older plugins, has something to do with MS Windows scaling.
Click the small arrow to the right of the plugin name, turn System DPI Scaling on and you should be fine.

SPv8 dpi scalling.png

[CapnLockheed]

Ummn....yeah....HELL NO. Did you actually try your own suggestion and NOT get this, (see pic), warning. I don't need to cause more problems by "fixing" a bug in the host. As I previously stated this problem doesn't exist in Presonus Studio One Pro v6.6.4 which is the DAW I own and use. I have not and will not "upgrade" to Fender Pro Studio V8.01 if I have use use tweaks that could potentially make my currently rock solid DAW PC unstable. And that's just one of many reasons I will not "upgrade".



And did you miss the part where the FENDER FORUM MOD admitted this was a problem with the Fender Pro Studio itself?

[RexXx]

I have no warning in Studio Pro 8.0.1 and it works for me. But that could be because I have already activated it for another plugin in the past.

Edit: I get the "warning" (it`s just a note) when I switch the scaling off and on again for the plugin, not when I open a new instance of it. Studio Pro seems to remember the last scaling setting for each plugin.

[BONES]

Judging from his screenshot, he seems to have solved the problem. It's the same plugin you used as an example and the scaling seems to be working as you'd expect. He's also clearly using macOS and SPro v8, so if it works for him it should work for you, shouldn't it?

As per usual, Fender has screwed the pooch. NOTHING can be done to make plugins that display just fine in PRESONUS S1 V6 from being microscopic in Fender Studio... yet another reason to not upgrade.

Or a really good reason to change operating systems. Everything on Windows works perfectly, as it always has.

See attached pics of the same plugin instantiated in v6 & v8.......and, actually, on screen, the gui of the plugin on 8 is WAY smaller. Impossible to use.

I see that as a monitor problem - you bought the wrong screen. If you have to scale your display to see anything, you're wasting GPU cycles. It's a chronic problem a lot of us have, myself included, but I think it's a bit unfair to make it the software developer's problem. (My excuse is that my computer only has an 8.8" screen, so I have to scale it to be be able to see anything at all. It all looks great on my 27" monitor, though, at 100% scaling. I only use the computer's screen on stage, where I only need basic functions to select the next song.)

[CapnLockheed]

I have no warning in Studio Pro 8.0.1 and it works for me. That could be because I have already activated it for another plugin in the past.

Well then, I'm happy for you that that this has not caused problems for you....yet.
But I, and my clients, depend on my system's stability. I'm not willing to risk that, especially when a Fender Mod has confirmed it is an actual bug. Perhaps, when there are less reports of problems, I may consider upgrading. But for now I will not risk "fixing" a system that is not broken. There's a reason why many pro engineers use older versions
of their DAWS of choice.

[CapnLockheed]

I see that as a monitor problem - you bought the wrong screen. If you have to scale your display to see anything, you're wasting GPU cycles. It's a chronic problem a lot of us have, myself included, but I think it's a bit unfair to make it the software developer's problem.

Oh PLEASE...it's not a MONITOR problem. Did you not actually READ my OP?? No problem in ANY other host including Presonus Studio One 6.6.4. AND a genuine real life FENDER MOD admitted it's a problem with the DAW.

[EnGee]

Just enable the damn DPI Scaling! It is enabled by default in some other DAWs, like Ableton Live, and you need to do the opposite there for modern plugins (in Windows)!
Most of the old (or very old) plugins causes this in modern monitors (4k especially). It is the developer's responsibility to update his/her plugin GUI not the DAW's company.
Oh, and btw, in Mac OS, the scaling is much better than Windows! It is clearer and less blurry.

[CapnLockheed]

Just enable the damn DPI Scaling! It is enabled by default in some other DAWs, like Ableton Live, and you need to do the opposite there for modern plugins (in Windows)!
Most of the old (or very old) plugins causes this in modern monitors (4k especially). It is the developer's responsibility to update his/her plugin GUI not the DAW's company.
Oh, and btw, in Mac OS, the scaling is much better than Windows! It is clearer and less blurry.

WOW!! Guess you didn't read any of the previous posts. It's not a frigging monitor problem. You've been lurking here for twenty one years and this is your SEVENTH post?? Thanks for weighing in on this ridiculously minor non-issue Mac fanboi.

Have a Wonderful Life!!

[thievedletter]

WOW!! Guess you didn't read any of the previous posts. It's not a frigging monitor problem. You've been lurking here for twenty one years and this is your SEVENTH post?? Thanks for weighing in on this ridiculously minor non-issue Mac fanboi.

Have a Wonderful Life!!

Do you really expect people to want to help you with the aggression you've shown in this thread?

ETA: If you weren't so busy getting angry, you'd have noticed it's their 9000+ post, not the "seventh" like you claimed.

[jamcat]

[Touch The Universe]

Hilarious, nice fit - how in the world does your mind work to think and find that meme

[jamcat]

It's what I'm here for

[CapnLockheed]

He's also clearly using macOS and SPro v8, so if it works for him it should work for you, shouldn't it? Or a really good reason to change operating systems. Everything on Windows works perfectly, as it always has.

I don't understand what would make you think I'm on a macOS. I have never used any Apple software or hardware. I'm on Windows too. And everything works perfectly, as it always has....EXCEPT for Fender Studio Pro V8.01.

You think I'm angry? No, just a bit frustrated but not terribly surprised. My OP regarding this issue was simply to report a bug which, btw, was confirmed by a Fender mod. All I got was a bunch of snarky condescending, accusatory responses and a few potentially risky solutions. None of which I needed because, as I stated in that first post, Fender Studio Pro is not my main DAW. I was just trying report an issue which does not occur in earlier version of Studio One. All I got was a big bag of crap. Typical KVR.

@EnGee....my sincere apologies for getting your post count wrong. As to the rest of you lot, not so much. This thread was already entirely de-railed and off topic. Please feel free to get back to your deep metaphysical musings......I'm out.