POLL -Plugins for WinXP -11, Mac, Linux

[El°HYM]

Linux is a great OS but for music production it kinda sucks... i know we have Yabridge and Wine but
these don't offer 100% plugin compatibility. if Linux had support for native VST3 and CLAP support,
a huge amount of people might switch to Linux IMO.

Hoping, I am not repeating myself but here we go.

https://linuxdaw.org

[FigBug]

Hoping, I am not repeating myself but here we go.

https://linuxdaw.org

The Linux plugin market is tiny, I wrote like 5% of the plugins on that page.

[audiojunkie]

Hoping, I am not repeating myself but here we go.

https://linuxdaw.org

The Linux plugin market is tiny, I wrote like 5% of the plugins on that page.

2.78% to be exact, unless you are counting developer tools, which I don’t count. But linuxdaw.org doesn’t list everything—not by a long shot. Nothing without a gui is listed, and there are hundreds of those. There are probably triple the number of plugins or more available that aren’t listed there. LV2 alone has over a thousand known plugins, which is more than the 900 listed plugins at Linuxdaw.org.

Sure, there are less plugins than other OSes, but how many does a person REALLY need? Seriously. The primary sound creation types are: Subtractive synthesis, FM synthesis, wavetable synthesis, Granular synthesis, Additive synthesis, physical modeling synthesis, and sampling. You can reproduce about 98% of all reproducible sound with this. If you add all of the effect types, nearly all available on Linux, there isn’t much left that can’t be done.

Seriously. What, besides high quality, deeply sampled instrument libraries with lots of articulations are we linux users lacking?

I’ll wait…

[Seafire Mk2]

Credibility

[4_the masses]

How can an OS that is trying to shove down updates on you 24/7 can even be considered as a professional choice for music production? Windows wants you to be online all the time, even better logged into your account and their shop, so they can offer you the things you need. It is a consumer operating system telling you what to do, what to think and what to buy. On Mac this becomes a little more posh and elegant, yet also 'offering' you forced updates all day long. With Linux all you will get is a notification, which then includes info about which updates are security related. So now you become a user with absolute sovereignty over what your system will or can do. Now tell me, which is the very best OS for music production in these days.

So have a second machine that isn't online for your music production, the problem is solved sir.

[IvyBirds]

OS can be very important when you collaborate with different people

Absolutely

I have to care a lot, cuz I teach people how to use a daw (Reaper, Pro Tools).

And since you teach Protools and since Avid now requires Windows 11 as a minimum requirement or you don't get tech support of any kind you always encourage your students to ditch everything but Windows 11 right?

How valuable is it to learn Protools if you can't use it

[IvyBirds]

How can an OS that is trying to shove down updates on you 24/7 can even be considered as a professional choice for music production? Windows wants you to be online all the time, even better logged into your account and their shop, so they can offer you the things you need. It is a consumer operating system telling you what to do, what to think and what to buy.

Weirdly I have been using Windows in music production since the 1990s and I am currently running Windows 11 on my four main studio PCs, and my two Gigging machines and I have never experienced what you are suggesting

On my experimental machines I am running the current Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 26220.7961 (Beta Channel) that came out yesterday and I also don't experience what you are suggesting

I can also dual boot into Linux on a few of my machines including my experimental machine and absolutely despise using it for Music Production

Now tell me, which is the very best OS for music production in these days.

That's easy Windows 11 hands down. I have to hear any compelling reasons for anyone as to why Linux would be superior, all I hear is ignorant statements about problems with Windows that don't exist

[audiojunkie]

Credibility

Meaning?

[vurt]

How can an OS that is trying to shove down updates on you 24/7 can even be considered as a professional choice for music production? Windows wants you to be online all the time, even better logged into your account and their shop, so they can offer you the things you need. It is a consumer operating system telling you what to do, what to think and what to buy.

Weirdly I have been using Windows in music production since the 1990s and I am currently running Windows 11 on my four main studio PCs, and my two Gigging machines and I have never experienced what you are suggesting

On my experimental machines I am running the current Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 26220.7961 (Beta Channel) that came out yesterday and I also don't experience what you are suggesting

I can also dual boot into Linux on a few of my machines including my experimental machine and absolutely despise using it for Music Production

Now tell me, which is the very best OS for music production in these days.

That's easy Windows 11 hands down. I have to hear any compelling reasons for anyone as to why Linux would be superior, all I hear is ignorant statements about problems with Windows that don't exist

yup, been using windows for a long time, never had issues with forced anything, there's been prods to update for security on occasion but not so intrusive they've effected my flow. just restart when im ready.

shop? ive not seen thar yet.

[DCrown]

OS can be very important when you collaborate with different people

Absolutely

I have to care a lot, cuz I teach people how to use a daw (Reaper, Pro Tools).

And since you teach Protools and since Avid now requires Windows 11 as a minimum requirement or you don't get tech support of any kind you always encourage your students to ditch everything but Windows 11 right?

How valuable is it to learn Protools if you can't use it

At the moment Reaper only, I stopped using Pro Tools. I am ok with Win 11, did I say I dislike, just need Win7 for very old plugins I like. On my laptop I have Win 11, too.
The majority of people I know still have Win 7, you can exchange Wav files on almost every OS, I suppose. The most important a daw has to give me is some tracks I can record a signal coming from a mic no matter what OS.

[IvyBirds]

OS can be very important when you collaborate with different people

Absolutely

I have to care a lot, cuz I teach people how to use a daw (Reaper, Pro Tools).

And since you teach Protools and since Avid now requires Windows 11 as a minimum requirement or you don't get tech support of any kind you always encourage your students to ditch everything but Windows 11 right?

How valuable is it to learn Protools if you can't use it

At the moment Reaper only, I stopped using Pro Tools. I am ok with Win 11, did I say I dislike, just need Win7 for very old plugins I like. On my laptop I have Win 11, too.
The majority of people I know still have Win 7, you can exchange Wav files on almost every OS, I suppose. The most important a daw has to give me is some tracks I can record a signal coming from a mic no matter what OS.

You said less than 48 hours ago that you teach people to use Protools in the present tense, not that you used to teach Protools

So in the last 2 days you have stopped doing that and canceled your classes?

[IvyBirds]

How can an OS that is trying to shove down updates on you 24/7 can even be considered as a professional choice for music production? Windows wants you to be online all the time, even better logged into your account and their shop, so they can offer you the things you need. It is a consumer operating system telling you what to do, what to think and what to buy.

Weirdly I have been using Windows in music production since the 1990s and I am currently running Windows 11 on my four main studio PCs, and my two Gigging machines and I have never experienced what you are suggesting

On my experimental machines I am running the current Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 26220.7961 (Beta Channel) that came out yesterday and I also don't experience what you are suggesting

I can also dual boot into Linux on a few of my machines including my experimental machine and absolutely despise using it for Music Production

Now tell me, which is the very best OS for music production in these days.

That's easy Windows 11 hands down. I have to hear any compelling reasons for anyone as to why Linux would be superior, all I hear is ignorant statements about problems with Windows that don't exist

yup, been using windows for a long time, never had issues with forced anything, there's been prods to update for security on occasion but not so intrusive they've effected my flow. just restart when im ready.

shop? ive not seen thar yet.

Exactly in Windows 11 pro

Press Win + R, type gpedit.msc, and hit Enter.

Got to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Manage end user experience.
Double-click Configure Automatic Updates and set it to Disabled.

Boom automatic updates are disabled permanently and will never bother you again. Some people claim eventually Windows will turn that back on, but I have never experienced it. If you are using Windows Defender it will still download the various virus definitions but since I don't run that I don't have that issue

Alternatively instead of setting it to disabled, under options, select 2 - "Notify for download and auto install". If you do that your computer won't download anything without asking you first, and certainly won't install them

Of course there is also zero reason to keep your music production computers connected to the internet 24/7 anyway, and you should strip away and uninstall anything not production related

[3lu5iv3]

Linux is a great OS but for music production it kinda sucks... i know we have Yabridge and Wine but
these don't offer 100% plugin compatibility. if Linux had support for native VST3 and CLAP support,
a huge amount of people might switch to Linux IMO.

You might be surprised to learn some cool things about Linux that you were misinformed about. There are hundreds of Linux-native plugins nowadays. And, Linux has had support for VST3 for years. Furthermore, Linux had support for CLAP from day one.

hundreds? really? not bad. i should have conveyed the meaning correctly.
what i meant was running a Windows or macOS plugins on Linux with 100% compatibility.
i know we have native Linux plugins but it's not there yet IMO...
i do use Linux but not for music production. If Serum 2 and some of my other plugins run super well(without any problems) i probably will switch to Linux.

[3lu5iv3]

Linux is a great OS but for music production it kinda sucks... i know we have Yabridge and Wine but
these don't offer 100% plugin compatibility. if Linux had support for native VST3 and CLAP support,
a huge amount of people might switch to Linux IMO.

Hoping, I am not repeating myself but here we go.

https://linuxdaw.org

whoa, 900?
Thank u so much!!!

[chaocrator]

Linux is a great OS but for music production it kinda sucks... i know we have Yabridge and Wine but
these don't offer 100% plugin compatibility. if Linux had support for native VST3 and CLAP support,
a huge amount of people might switch to Linux IMO.

Linux does have support for VST3 and CLAP – but in native Linux format.
i guess you want 100% compatibility with plugins from another OS, i.e. Windoze – but it doesn't work like that, not even supposed to.
it's not Linux fault that software vendors don't offer Linux builds of their software even when totally possible (Ableton Push runs Linux inside).