Introducing PolyChrome DSP Cry Boy - Analog Wah Simulation

[Tubeman]

Yeah, it looks like it should be called Fruity Wah now.

McLovin really f’d it up.

So your complaint is about the graphics and not about the sound?

[SAGG]

keeping in mind that we narrowly escaped him making it look like a piece of Swiss cheese colored in 50 shades of violet (and there was a fair chance of that happening), it's not that bad, after all.

good ol' Albert would tell us we got off relatively lightly.

[Niowiad]

Looking good, the weird part (GUI-wise) is all the empty space around it.
But very nice update nonetheless. Some cool new features.

[audiojunkie]

I just need it in a native Linux binary.

[jamcat]

The pedal looks nice for a plugin. What is it that you don't like about it, jamcat?

I don’t like that it no longer looks looks like a real pedal and looks like a stubby cartoon pedal now.

But most of all, I don’t like how the fulcrum is in the dead center of the pedal, instead of two-thirds back towards the heel. It used to be, before the graphics change, that the pedal GUI would track to a wah pedal style expression controller exactly. But the new graphics don’t track with the foot controller because the pivot point is way off. This throws me off when I try to use it now.

[jamcat]

Yeah, it looks like it should be called Fruity Wah now.

McLovin really f’d it up.

So your complaint is about the graphics and not about the sound?

It sounds great, and I love the new inductor models. That was actually my suggestion, and I think every type I listed (red fasel, yellow fasel, stack of dimes, etc) were included.

But the thing is, I bought this plugin the day version 1.0 was released. It’s one of my top guitar pedal plugins I use. But it no longer works as expected, because the pedal in the GUI doesn’t track to my wah expression pedal controller anymore. Because of the new graphics.

[audiojunkie]

The pedal looks nice for a plugin. What is it that you don't like about it, jamcat?

I don’t like that it no longer looks looks like a real pedal and looks like a stubby cartoon pedal now.

But most of all, I don’t like how the fulcrum is in the dead center of the pedal, instead of two-thirds back towards the heel. It used to be, before the graphics change, that the pedal GUI would track to a wah pedal style expression controller exactly. But the new graphics don’t track with the foot controller because the pivot point is way off. This throws me off when I try to use it now.

Ah, ok. I never saw it previously. That's why to me it looks good.

[Tubeman]

The pedal looks nice for a plugin. What is it that you don't like about it, jamcat?

I don’t like that it no longer looks looks like a real pedal and looks like a stubby cartoon pedal now.

But most of all, I don’t like how the fulcrum is in the dead center of the pedal, instead of two-thirds back towards the heel. It used to be, before the graphics change, that the pedal GUI would track to a wah pedal style expression controller exactly. But the new graphics don’t track with the foot controller because the pivot point is way off. This throws me off when I try to use it now.

I get what you mean but I would be looking at the physical pedal and not the screen graphics. And listening, that's important. Listen to what it does when you move your feet and adjust the settings accordingly.

[jamcat]

Well, I look at both the controller and the GUI. But sometimes I’m using a surface controller fader or just hand editing automation. I need to see the virtual pedal in the GUI responding as I would expect a real pedal to respond to be able to really play it like an instrument. Version 1.0 worked like that, but version 1.1 does not. The pedal angle is different than I am expecting because the position of the fulcrum is different, the pedal length is different, and the pedal shape and look is no longer familiar and just doesn’t look like the pedal that I have decades of experience and muscle memory with anymore. It just no longer tracks correctly. It feels disconnected now.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

But why would you be looking at the pedal UI to dial in the sound and automate? You gotta use your ears, no?

I have zero problem with the new UI. Looks kind of like a Morley. Allows space for the added controls.

BTW still frigging LOVE this effect. If it could somehow be hardware it would be my favorite wah.

[jamcat]

Funkybot, I’m sure you know very well that anyone with a good bit of experience using wah pedals knows exactly how it’s going to sound cocked at a particular angle. It’s going to sound a certain way when it looks a certain way and when it moves a certain way. As guitarists, we all use that gut feeling when shaping a performance. Version 1.0 translated perfectly, but it’s just not there with 1.1 anymore.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

i know what a cocked wah sounds like. Where a particular sound I'm looking for is on the sweep of a wah is going to vary wildly from wah to wah. I'm really picky with hardware wahs. I still don't have anything I like as much as my 90s Vox, including some boutique modded Vox wahs.

But in Cry Boy, once you tweak an inductor, or adjust any of the Edit settings, you're going to get a totally different wah response. I wouldn't be looking at it. I'd be trying to "feel it out".

[audiojunkie]

I always liked my crybaby.

[SAGG]

have a hunch if this was Audiority plugin, original Crybaby look and operation would be left intact.

but since the very first, ghastly Mcboblin suite, it was clear every Mcboblin plugin would be best tailored to his personal insanity, not comfort of the users.

bad luck, jamcat.

[Chicken Drummy]

I prefer the updated GUI myself.