If AI replaces musicians, does the entire plugin industry die with them?

[wagtunes]

The thing is, the model that the AI uses will only have been trained to recognise a specific list of words. It may or may not have any idea what you're asking for. Anyway, it's not designed to be precise so you'd be wasting your time with a 2,000 word prompt. You need to think of your prompts as suggestions, not instructions. i.e. "I'd like something a bit like X, possibly with some of Y, maybe in a Z style", not "I want X plus Y plus Z".

Hey Bones, as I know you're open minded to AI stuff, you might want to check this out.

https://unison.audio/unisynth

I just picked it up and I think it's freaking awesome. It is very inspiring. I'll post my latest when it's finished.

[felis]

If AI replaces musicians, does the entire plugin industry die with them?

False premise. AI can't replace musicians.
At most, it might take away some work from people who make money from it.
But most musicians don't make money from it. They have other motivations.

[Tubeman]

If AI replaces musicians, does the entire plugin industry die with them?

False premise. AI can't replace musicians.
At most, it might take away some work from people who make money from it.
But most musicians don't make money from it. They have other motivations.

I'm sure there's still demand for classical musicians and orchestras for example like there's been for hundreds of years. Can't really replace them playing live in a great concert hall with an AI. Also good live bands will have demand now and in the future too.

[BONES]

Hey Bones, as I know you're open minded to AI stuff, you might want to check this out. https://unison.audio/unisynth

It looks like a great alternative to banks of hundreds of patches but none of the 32 genres it has been trained on are EBM or Electro-Industrial so it would be pot luck trying to get something useful for us. It's also twice as much as I've ever spent on a plugin, even with $100 off. (I am nothing if not cheap.)

[ghettosynth]

Hey Bones, as I know you're open minded to AI stuff, you might want to check this out. https://unison.audio/unisynth

It looks like a great alternative to banks of hundreds of patches but none of the 32 genres it has been trained on are EBM or Electro-Industrial so it would be pot luck trying to get something useful for us. It's also twice as much as I've ever spent on a plugin, even with $100 off. (I am nothing if not cheap.)

Ugh, the long form sales letter with time limited pitch. Unfortunately, AI is going to fuel this kind of bullshit in droves. The demos are pathetic casio crap. As near as I can tell there isn't any "AI technology" here that matters. It runs on any PC:

Unisynth is compatible with all DAWs including Ableton Live, FL Studio, Logic Pro, Pro Tools, Studio One, Cubase, Garageband, Reason, Reaper, Cakewalk, Mixcraft & Bitwig Studio on both Mac & PC. It's fully optimized for M1 and M2 Macs, and works as early as Windows 7 or macOS 10.9.

There's no mention of model ore memory there. This is, in essence, a genre constrained randomizer. This is complete crap jumping on the AI bandwagon. The synth itself is adequate, at best. The sound designers and developers worked for five years to create that? Really? This guy is the best that they had to present "look at all of these filters." f**k me.

"Check out what it's doing"

"That sounds kind of like a bass guitar", no it doesn't.

Is this the Dub Turbo guys?

I managed to piss off some people when I first joined KVR for pointing out the long form sales letter in some other cash grab BS. My take here is only the AI aspect, if you love the midi packs, bully for you, there's enough info out there for you to have your own take on whether or not they are a legit vender.

However, there's nothing here of actual meaning with respect to AI or a model. What, the sound designers worked for five years to design sounds, I thought this was AI?

"that's super dreamy", no it's not, it sounds like shit.

He then proceeds to spend forever tweaking the synth only to say that you're not stuck doing sound design. The most interesting aspect of the pitch is how they are coming up with a sales pitch that asserts that you are free from the use of sound packs. This tells you what you need to know.

[wagtunes]

Hey Bones, as I know you're open minded to AI stuff, you might want to check this out. https://unison.audio/unisynth

It looks like a great alternative to banks of hundreds of patches but none of the 32 genres it has been trained on are EBM or Electro-Industrial so it would be pot luck trying to get something useful for us. It's also twice as much as I've ever spent on a plugin, even with $100 off. (I am nothing if not cheap.)

Ugh, the long form sales letter with time limited pitch. Unfortunately, AI is going to fuel this kind of bullshit in droves. The demos are pathetic casio crap. As near as I can tell there isn't any "AI technology" here that matters. It runs on any PC:

Unisynth is compatible with all DAWs including Ableton Live, FL Studio, Logic Pro, Pro Tools, Studio One, Cubase, Garageband, Reason, Reaper, Cakewalk, Mixcraft & Bitwig Studio on both Mac & PC. It's fully optimized for M1 and M2 Macs, and works as early as Windows 7 or macOS 10.9.

There's no mention of model ore memory there. This is, in essence, a genre constrained randomizer. This is complete crap jumping on the AI bandwagon. The synth itself is adequate, at best. The sound designers and developers worked for five years to create that? Really? This guy is the best that they had to present "look at all of these filters." f**k me.

"Check out what it's doing"

"That sounds kind of like a bass guitar", no it doesn't.

Is this the Dub Turbo guys?

I managed to piss off some people when I first joined KVR for pointing out the long form sales letter in some other cash grab BS. My take here is only the AI aspect, if you love the midi packs, bully for you, there's enough info out there for you to have your own take on whether or not they are a legit vender.

However, there's nothing here of actual meaning with respect to AI or a model. What, the sound designers worked for five years to design sounds, I thought this was AI?

"that's super dreamy", no it's not, it sounds like shit.

He then proceeds to spend forever tweaking the synth only to say that you're not stuck doing sound design. The most interesting aspect of the pitch is how they are coming up with a sales pitch that asserts that you are free from the use of sound packs. This tells you what you need to know.

While I respect your take on this, for me, this synth is a dream. I just made a song inspired by a few clicks of a button. Maybe it's not AI, but the "randomizer" as you call it came up with some really cool sounds in seconds that inspired me to create this song.

Without it, I first would have had to decide which of the 300 synths I own that I wanted to use and then, go through the thousands of presets to find something I like. This saved me a lot of time.

For me, it's a dream synth if I want to do something quickly.

One man's bag of dog poop is another man's pot of gold.

Let's try to remember that.

[wagtunes]

Okay, I am by no means claiming this is some musical masterpiece. But it's certainly no worse than most of what's being put out there today by hobby artists.

The other sounds on this track took over an hour to come up with. The sounds starting at about 2:40 took all of a few seconds and inspired the middle section itself. The only thing not Unisynth in that section is Battery 4 for the drums.

Ultimately, this track would have never happened without Unisynth. Though I am sure some would say that would have been a good thing. I'm used to the snide remarks and they no longer phase me.

Anyway, here you go. No need to listen to the whole thing. Start at about 2:40.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... tom-of-the

[ghettosynth]

One man's bag of dog poop is another man's pot of gold.

Seeing dog poop as gold is exactly what the long form sales letter does to your perception. It seems that it worked on you.

[wagtunes]

One man's bag of dog poop is another man's pot of gold.

Seeing dog poop as gold is exactly what the long form sales letter does to your perception. It seems that it worked on you.

Nothing "worked" on me. I've been making music long enough to know what I want, why I want it and how I can use it. And for you to imply that I'm just a brain dead idiot I find insulting. I wouldn't criticize you for any purchase decisions YOU would make. But then again, some of us have class and then there are those who don't.

[ghettosynth]

But then again, some of us have class and then there are those who don't.

Class is in session.

[Hipster Bales]

One man's bag of dog poop is another man's pot of gold.

Seeing dog poop as gold is exactly what the long form sales letter does to your perception. It seems that it worked on you.

You can't just be condescending just cuz you're on a forum bro.

[wagtunes]

One man's bag of dog poop is another man's pot of gold.

Seeing dog poop as gold is exactly what the long form sales letter does to your perception. It seems that it worked on you.

You can't just be condescending just cuz you're on a forum bro.

It's okay. I'm used to it from this place. A lot of total assholes here.

[Hipster Bales]

One man's bag of dog poop is another man's pot of gold.

Seeing dog poop as gold is exactly what the long form sales letter does to your perception. It seems that it worked on you.

You can't just be condescending just cuz you're on a forum bro.

It's okay. I'm used to it from this place. A lot of total assholes here.

I mean, yeah there are assholes here, and you're one of the best producers on this forum, so the "dog poop" thing says more about him than it does you.

[BONES]

You can't just be condescending just cuz you're on a forum bro.

Except that's how real, actual people interact with one another in real life.

[wagtunes]

You can't just be condescending just cuz you're on a forum bro.

Except that's how real, actual people interact with one another in real life.

And what it he told you your buying decision was stupid? I don't think you'd like it.