Arturia V Collection 11 - April 24, 2025

[felis]

They've also been introducing stuff between releases.
If it's something you just have to have, you can always buy that separately.
I think doing that will also reduce the cost when you upgrade.

[ytjmu]

The big dream is having V12 Linux native + CLAP. One can dream...

Arturia doesn't even list Linux as an option in your profile where you can select your OSes

[mabian]

The big dream is having V12 Linux native + CLAP. One can dream...

Arturia doesn't even list Linux as an option in your profile where you can select your OSes

Can
One
Dream?

[ramseysounds]

Yeah, Arturia are kind of over.

Do Arturia realise that?
Bit of a nonsense comment really.
I upgraded to 11 and must say the extra synths are marvellous. To my ears they sound good and give me extra options

Actually, I saw a brand new ad from them on YouTube so I guess that blows your argument out the water

[BONES]

I ran through the JUV 8000's factory patches last night and they're not all that impressive, really. There are a few very nice things hidden away in there but it's mostly pretty bland and boring stuff. OTOH, Airwave's factory bank is way more impressive and inspirational. Fortunately, I can use that inspiration on either of them. I can see a lot of feedback oscillator in my future.

[jamcat]

Yeah, Arturia are kind of over.

Do Arturia realise that?

If their sales have declined in recent years as much as it appears, then yes.

They’re clearly investing less in software development over the last several cycles. The only question really is if it is a cause or an effect.

There has been a whole lot less heat behind Arturia than there used to be.

[Echoes in the Attic]

Yeah, Arturia are kind of over.

Do Arturia realise that?

If their sales have declined in recent years as much as it appears, then yes.

They’re clearly investing less in software development over the last several cycles. The only question really is if it is a cause or an effect.

There has been a whole lot less heat behind Arturia than there used to be.

I've not noticed much of a change in Arturia's pace of development in about 20 years.

[skarvika]

I ran through the JUV 8000's factory patches last night and they're not all that impressive, really. There are a few very nice things hidden away in there but it's mostly pretty bland and boring stuff. OTOH, Airwave's factory bank is way more impressive and inspirational. Fortunately, I can use that inspiration on either of them. I can see a lot of feedback oscillator in my future.

I'm relatively unimpressed with the factory presets for both, but there's some very nice third party soundbanks for JUV-8000 (namely from Aiyn Zahev, Ultimate X Sounds and JKsound). If I upgrade to V Collection 11, it'll be for those.

Yeah, Arturia are kind of over.

Do Arturia realise that?

If their sales have declined in recent years as much as it appears, then yes.

They’re clearly investing less in software development over the last several cycles. The only question really is if it is a cause or an effect.

There has been a whole lot less heat behind Arturia than there used to be.

I would attribute that to a much more saturated plugin market. I still see Pigments regularly mentioned in discussions for favorite softsynth. There was a point when Arturia was one of the only developers committed to halfway decent vintage synth emulations, before the likes of GForce, Cherry Audio, etc. We really are spoiled for choice now.

[IvyBirds]

Yeah, Arturia are kind of over.

Do Arturia realise that?

If their sales have declined in recent years as much as it appears, then yes.

They’re clearly investing less in software development over the last several cycles. The only question really is if it is a cause or an effect.

There has been a whole lot less heat behind Arturia than there used to be.

They are developing as much as they always have, and it wouldn't appear sales have declined at all

A few random people on KVR who already have a ton of plugins is not really representative of the plugin market as a whole

[jamcat]

It's not the pace so much as the content. About half of the new instruments over the past 3 V Collection versions have been Augmented Instruments, which are just sample libraries wrapped in the Pigments engine. That takes considerably less development resources to produce. To me, that gives the appearance that Arturia are slowing down. And anecdotally, the new models they have introduced over the last several years seem to generate less excitement.

[IvyBirds]

It's not the pace so much as the content. About half of the new instruments over the past 3 V Collection versions have been Augmented Instruments, which are just sample libraries wrapped in the Pigments engine. That takes considerably less development resources to produce. To me, that gives the appearance that Arturia are slowing down. And anecdotally, the new models they have introduced over the last several years seem to generate less excitement.

Version 11 had Jup8000V, Synthx , Minibrute, SEM V2,

That's four things not Augmented

Version 10 had

CP-70 V, MiniFreak V, Acid V, Mini V4 and Wurli V3,

That's 5 non augmented

looking back at other releases

Version 6 they gave us Buchla Easel V, the Clavinet V, the CMI V (Fairlight CMI), and the DX7 V. So they made 4 new instruments just like in 11 and one less than 10

Now let's look at V Collection 7. They had Mellotron V, CZ V, Synthi V. and B-3 V 2

So with version 7 they had 4 new instruments just like in 11 and one less than 10

With 8 we got Jun-6 V, Emulator II V, and Vocoder V. The collection also features an update to the OB-Xa V and an overhaul of the Jup-8 V 4. So that's 5 with two of them being updates to existing instruments just like we saw in 10 and one less than in 11

So even if you strip out the augmented stuff they are still producing exactly as they have done for many many years now

While I am not a fan of the Augmented stuff, it's not like they are taking away from anything it's all just bonus content, and the reality is lots of people do like it

[BONES]

I like the Augmented series stuff. Unless they are buying their samples off the shelf, there's a shit-tonne of work that goes into a good sample library. That's why they tend to be a lot more expensive than your average V/A synth plugin.

If their sales have declined in recent years as much as it appears, then yes.

Appears????

They’re clearly investing less in software development over the last several cycles. The only question really is if it is a cause or an effect.

Really? I see the opposite. Compared to 7 or 8 years ago, Arturia seem to me to be making a much bigger effort with their software.

There has been a whole lot less heat behind Arturia than there used to be.

I think that depends what you're looking for. Their range has expanded considerably with their sample-based instruments, for example. But it's a mature market and a mature company with a mature product line. It's inevitable that things will go off the boil. I wouldn't be reading anything into it.

I'm relatively unimpressed with the factory presets for both, but there's some very nice third party soundbanks for JUV-8000 (namely from Aiyn Zahev, Ultimate X Sounds and JKsound). If I upgrade to V Collection 11, it'll be for those.

I don't often buy expansions for anything, I was more thinking how the instrument doesn't make a great first impression because of the factory patches.

Anyway, I'm discovering now how much difference their is between the two instruments (JUV-8000 and Airwave). I've been working on a song for a couple of days and I had a nice JP6K bassline doing a decent job but it was just lacking that last little bit of polish. So I fired up the JUV and copied the settings from JP6K. It was understandably thinner (because it doesn't have two layers) so I pumped it up a bit with some EQ and distortion and got it doing as good a job as JP6K but I couldn't get any more out of it.

So I duplicated the track and put Airwave into it and within a couple of minutes I had pretty much exactly the sound I'd been looking for. Maybe it was easier because JP6K is also from Adam Szabo but I don't think that was it because, if anything, JUV-8000 is more like JP6K to work with (which is why I tried it first). I think it's the dual layer nature of Airwave. JP6K has two oscillators you can layer, not two separate layers, so I think Airwave just gave me that little bit of extra flexibility to get what I was after. Whatever, Airwave wins this round. Hopefully the other stuff I got with V 11 will make up for that disappointment.

[Examigan]

They have a deal on upgrading to V Collection 11. Login to their website and look under “My Offers”. I might buy it, since it’s just $99 for my offer going from v8 to 11.

[Cuauhtli]

It'd be about 10 new instruments and a couple of upgrades for me but I don't know.... I wish they'd step up their game soundwise and upgrade the Arp2600 and Modular V.

[Echoes in the Attic]

It'd be about 10 new instruments and a couple of upgrades for me but I don't know.... I wish they'd step up their game soundwise and upgrade the Arp2600 and Modular V.

I don't know, I don't actually like some of their newer versions as much as previous versions. While I like the mini's updated filter with less loss of bottom end, overall I don't think it beats the previous version. And I think the SEM v2 was better than v3. I think I liked the older CS-80 as much or more than the current version too. So I'm worried a new 2600 won't necessarily be that great.