Unisynth - Unison Audio new fascinating synth

[wagtunes]

I just received my $100 refund. I just wanted it for what everybody else is playing for it. The synth itself I'm more than happy with.

[mambo888]

I went to the website and listened to a couple of the sounds. Not something I didn't hear elsewhere. Decided not to buy it at the end. I will rather save money for Zebra 3.

[twal]

I don't think Unisynth is trying to sound different and unique. It's designed for ease of use by utilizing AI like their other chord generator products (at least I believe they all use AI).

As far as Zebra 3 goes, its diametrically opposed to Unisynth being its made for deep synthesis and focused programming.

[tatanka]

... Strange, I found no way to get there ...

You might have stored the original website version cached in your browser, so that it calls up the original as it was. For me it automatically redirects to the "-2" version.

... I made the payment, ...

Congrats, I guess lol. Joke aside, hope it works out well for you and you can get some value out of it, good luck. 100 bucks for the entire bundle is sort of okay-ish.

Just to get things clear:

- got my download and license now after writing to supportz, evrything works
- in the meantime it seems that they have "corrected" their intro prize evrywhere to 97 bucks

I would not wonder if what they wrote to Wag was "kind of" true, so they just tried to figger out how dumb the people are and how much they are willing to pay for this at first place.

And taking into account that Wag (and the other customer maybe ) get their refund and they just changed it to 97 $ in general what I think is kind of realistic (if you are looking for the fun and easy to use like me).

That would be a hint for how successfull their spamming marketing really is cause I really thought that the 97 $ would have been a mistake cause with the midiwizard they always stayed with this intro prize of 197 $.

[zerocrossing]

Well, if you're using a food analogy, it's more like saying you're a hunter, but you go into the woods and someone hands you a hamburger and you come out saying, "look, I hunted this down." If you're going to McDonalds, just say you're going to McDonalds, or go to a grocery store, or whatever you want to do to get your meat, but saying that someone handing you a burger is a type of hunting is just lying to yourself and everyone else. If clicking once is going to give you a groove, go to a streaming music app and click on some actual music. At least you'll probably get something fairly good.

I am not going to lie, I like your analogy quite a lot, it also contains a bit of humour. Well put zerocrossing.

Thanks. Maybe I should change my forum handle to Mr. Analogy.

I'm not inherently anti A.I, but it does bother me that a lot of people are relinquishing agency to these tools in such a gleeful way. People who are making this stuff up from scratch, or close to it are getting a handful of views/listens, probably no purchases, so now they also have to compete with this.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I'm almost finished with a track that contains some Indian instruments. Percussion, sitar and tanpura. I got the idea that it would be awesome to have a video for it that's a Bollywood style dance video, but those things look like they cost between ₹10 Lakh – ₹30 Lakh, and who's got that kind of money?

So, my options would be to animate it, forget the idea, or use an A.I. video generator. I'm not a great animator, so what's in my head would probably take me a year to complete. I could drop the idea and just use some public domain video (as I've been doing). I don't want to spend much money or time on it, frankly, because I want to focus on getting my songs recorded, and I'm lucky if my songs get 30 views and 2 "likes." I frankly wouldn't bother with visuals at all, but it's been my experience that people are way more likely to listen to something if there's a video.

So, do I try a video generation site and see how it goes? I'm on the fence about it.

[wagtunes]

Well, if you're using a food analogy, it's more like saying you're a hunter, but you go into the woods and someone hands you a hamburger and you come out saying, "look, I hunted this down." If you're going to McDonalds, just say you're going to McDonalds, or go to a grocery store, or whatever you want to do to get your meat, but saying that someone handing you a burger is a type of hunting is just lying to yourself and everyone else. If clicking once is going to give you a groove, go to a streaming music app and click on some actual music. At least you'll probably get something fairly good.

I am not going to lie, I like your analogy quite a lot, it also contains a bit of humour. Well put zerocrossing.

Thanks. Maybe I should change my forum handle to Mr. Analogy.

I'm not inherently anti A.I, but it does bother me that a lot of people are relinquishing agency to these tools in such a gleeful way. People who are making this stuff up from scratch, or close to it are getting a handful of views/listens, probably no purchases, so now they also have to compete with this.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I'm almost finished with a track that contains some Indian instruments. Percussion, sitar and tanpura. I got the idea that it would be awesome to have a video for it that's a Bollywood style dance video, but those things look like they cost between ₹10 Lakh – ₹30 Lakh, and who's got that kind of money?

So, my options would be to animate it, forget the idea, or use an A.I. video generator. I'm not a great animator, so what's in my head would probably take me a year to complete. I could drop the idea and just use some public domain video (as I've been doing). I don't want to spend much money or time on it, frankly, because I want to focus on getting my songs recorded, and I'm lucky if my songs get 30 views and 2 "likes." I frankly wouldn't bother with visuals at all, but it's been my experience that people are way more likely to listen to something if there's a video.

So, do I try a video generation site and see how it goes? I'm on the fence about it.

I would absolutely do it. Why not?

Look, I understand the hatred for AI in general but the truth is, we've drawn a line in the sand here that, to me, makes no sense. We have a big problem with a synth like Unisynth that can create a patch at the push of a button but we have no problem making a song with all these exotic instruments (and not so exotic instruments) that we would never in a million years actually own and use sample libraries to make people "think" we actually have a freaking symphony orchestra in our living room.

To me, it's hypocritical. But that's just my take on it. Now pressing a button and making a song? If that's what turns somebody on, power to them but I have no respect for that at all. That's MY line in the sand. But to use AI to create a synth patch or replace your horrible vocal with a good one (like I do) I have no problem with that.

YMMV

[zerocrossing]

Well, if you're using a food analogy, it's more like saying you're a hunter, but you go into the woods and someone hands you a hamburger and you come out saying, "look, I hunted this down." If you're going to McDonalds, just say you're going to McDonalds, or go to a grocery store, or whatever you want to do to get your meat, but saying that someone handing you a burger is a type of hunting is just lying to yourself and everyone else. If clicking once is going to give you a groove, go to a streaming music app and click on some actual music. At least you'll probably get something fairly good.

I am not going to lie, I like your analogy quite a lot, it also contains a bit of humour. Well put zerocrossing.

Thanks. Maybe I should change my forum handle to Mr. Analogy.

I'm not inherently anti A.I, but it does bother me that a lot of people are relinquishing agency to these tools in such a gleeful way. People who are making this stuff up from scratch, or close to it are getting a handful of views/listens, probably no purchases, so now they also have to compete with this.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I'm almost finished with a track that contains some Indian instruments. Percussion, sitar and tanpura. I got the idea that it would be awesome to have a video for it that's a Bollywood style dance video, but those things look like they cost between ₹10 Lakh – ₹30 Lakh, and who's got that kind of money?

So, my options would be to animate it, forget the idea, or use an A.I. video generator. I'm not a great animator, so what's in my head would probably take me a year to complete. I could drop the idea and just use some public domain video (as I've been doing). I don't want to spend much money or time on it, frankly, because I want to focus on getting my songs recorded, and I'm lucky if my songs get 30 views and 2 "likes." I frankly wouldn't bother with visuals at all, but it's been my experience that people are way more likely to listen to something if there's a video.

So, do I try a video generation site and see how it goes? I'm on the fence about it.

I would absolutely do it. Why not?

Look, I understand the hatred for AI in general but the truth is, we've drawn a line in the sand here that, to me, makes no sense. We have a big problem with a synth like Unisynth that can create a patch at the push of a button but we have no problem making a song with all these exotic instruments (and not so exotic instruments) that we would never in a million years actually own and use sample libraries to make people "think" we actually have a freaking symphony orchestra in our living room.

To me, it's hypocritical. But that's just my take on it. Now pressing a button and making a song? If that's what turns somebody on, power to them but I have no respect for that at all. That's MY line in the sand. But to use AI to create a synth patch or replace your horrible vocal with a good one (like I do) I have no problem with that.

YMMV

Bold and underlined for clarity, but that's what I feel is the issue. You're a professional patch designer, eh? Or at least were one at one time, before you retired. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I imagine that you got a level of satisfaction from crafting your patches. Is "pressing a button" to create a new patch going to turn you on?

I guess it's like being the musical director of an orchestra, vs being the conductor, or one of the musicians. I know that when I finish a track, or even if I'm just doing a live improv into an audio looper, it feels good. It's like I'm in front of the camera, acting out the part that I wrote, as opposed to being a studio executive, who green lit the project. Me using Synthesizer V for a vocal is more like Lucas replacing David Prowse with the voice of James Earl Jones.



I still wrote the notes. I still wrote the lyrics. I tediously went through every note to make the performance exactly what I wanted it to be. It's a very different thing than saying, "a song about ____ that's in _____ style at an uptempo BPM that features a female voice." My issue with that is, why not just listen to a track by someone else, at that point?

[wagtunes]

I get what you're saying but the truth is, these days I'm more concerned with songwriting and recording than making patches. So if I can find an easy way to come up with an inspiring patch, I'll use it. Having been forced out of the business (long story) it's just not a priority anymore. The song is all that matters.

[zerocrossing]

I get what you're saying but the truth is, these days I'm more concerned with songwriting and recording than making patches. So if I can find an easy way to come up with an inspiring patch, I'll use it. Having been forced out of the business (long story) it's just not a priority anymore. The song is all that matters.

That's fair. No different than using someone else's preset, I guess, which I do a fair amount of the time, though there's always some tweaking to fit. I'm a weird guy with presets. I love making them, and then basically never use the majority of them. I just like making them. I'll also get a new synthesizer and spend hours going through the presets. It's almost like a meditation. Like flipping though a coffee table book of art or something. I love how the preset is pushing back on what I do, like a collaboration.

[VariKusBrainZ]

I cant believe KVR is giving this synth the time of day, especially knowing the cowboys that spat this out

[ghettosynth]

I cant believe KVR is giving this synth the time of day, especially knowing the cowboys that spat this out

It's that long form sales letter, it triggers the FOMO!

[Choikdoi]

Yep. Completely unnecessary too. That one single sentence about how it cost over 1.5 million dollars to make was enough to trigger mine.

[wagtunes]

As someone who grew up with long form sales letters (and made a few myself when I had my first MMO business) they don't bother me. I don't even read them. I look at what the product is and decide if it's something I think I can use. Since I've purchased just about every synth out there, and this one would allow me to make patches at the push of a button, that's all I cared about. I was sold regardless of what the sales letter said that I didn't read.

I think people tend to let things trigger them that, in the grand scheme of things, just don't matter that much. I mean not liking a synth because you think the synth itself is crap is one thing. But to not buy it because of a sales letter?

That I just don't get.

[XorXisT]

Moronic youtuber > unisynth

[Seluvis]

Yep. Completely unnecessary too. That one single sentence about how it cost over 1.5 million dollars to make was enough to trigger mine.

I wonder how much it would cost to commission a Synth with roughly the same feature set as Unisynth? There are a few developers out their that farm all the work out to DSP freelancers. 1.5 million seems a bit of a stretch though.