SWAY - a synth modeled after the Yamaha SY77

[Ego_Shredder]

From reading this thread from the beginning, the only thing that is not 100% accurate is the FX section, but has been made to be very similar apparently. The Factory ROM and all the optional WAVEFORM/DATA card sets can be imported into SWAYED, so as long as the data for the presets is there or able to be imported, then it should sound quite close to the real thing. I just think of this as being like Nil's K1v recreation of the classic Kawai K1, which I also happen to own a K1r bought in 1990.

[Uncle E]

Can it load other sample formats?

[EvilDragon]

For now it supports only the file format used by the ROMs IIRC.

[Teksonik]

And yet another ethical conundrum.

[EvilDragon]

Not really, because sy.factory program (by Derek Cook, one of long-time Yamaha specialists) exists and it is a legit way of adding your own samples to an SY/TG77, by means of a WaveBlade card. So that program writes valid binaries (which you would otherwise burn onto the WaveBlade card via its own programmer unit) that Swayed will slurp up perfectly fine.

[Teksonik]

Wag's question was about the factory ROM, not about adding our own samples:

I wonder if the ability to load the factory ROMs will be included.

[Teksonik]

Wag's question was about the factory ROM, not about adding our own samples:

I wonder if the ability to load the factory ROMs will be included.

If it was legal to use the SY77's original Wave ROM why didn't Sheaf just use it ?

[beely]

I mean, it's like any sampler - you can load in samples. Whether you choose to load in recordings under copyright owned by someone else, or whether you choose to load in your own recordings you own the copyright of, is up to the user.

There was talk in future versions of supporting more open formats like sound fonts, to make it easier to use your own samples without having to build a Yamaha-format card image.

If it was legal to use the SY77's original Wave ROM why didn't Sheaf just use it ?

It's not legal to include those samples, hence, they are not included. Let's not try to turn every conversation about samples into an ethical dilemma. That has existed since the first samplers were made and copyright recordings were sampled. Any device you can record with is capable of generating ethical dilemmas, but we don't question whether DAWs should exist or let people load in samples in every DAW thread etc...

[Uncle E]

And yet another ethical conundrum.

The original SY77 samples had little to do with what made it special. It can only be improved with Sheaf's samples.

[beely]

The original SY77 samples had little to do with what made it special. It can only be improved with Sheaf's samples.

Probably the same is true for the FX too...

[Uncle E]

Sadly not, though let's not open that can of worms again.

[wagtunes]

Ethics aside, we all know about a certain site that has every freaking ROM from from every freaking synth in existence. So if somebody wants to use it, they're going to. That is the reality.

[Teksonik]

And yet another ethical conundrum.

The original SY77 samples had little to do with what made it special. It can only be improved with Sheaf's samples.

Then you need to address your comment to Wags:

I wonder if the ability to load the factory ROMs will be included.

[Teksonik]

It's not legal to include those samples, hence, they are not included. Let's not try to turn every conversation about samples into an ethical dilemma.

It's only an ethical dilemma when copyrighted material is used. I refer you to the KVR terms of service.

But hey if morals mean so little to you that you would compromise them over 4mb of ancient Wave ROM then by all means knock yourself out.

That has existed since the first samplers were made and copyright recordings were sampled. Any device you can record with is capable of generating ethical dilemmas, but we don't question whether DAWs should exist or let people load in samples in every DAW thread etc...

That's simply a misdirection and has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

But I surrender. Steal everything, use A.I. to make your music because you're too lazy to make it yourself. It's a f*cked up world we live in right now. We should strive to make it less so.

Anyway I'll be back when there is a SWAY demo to try and we can have something solid to talk about.

[audiojunkie]

It's still too bad that it doesn't support Linux. Even though I just bought Zebra 3, I'd still be interested in picking this one up too. But I understand how it goes......nevertheless, I still wish........




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