SWAY - a synth modeled after the Yamaha SY77

[DCrown]

Now that Sway has been released, I have to say I like Uvi more. It was a good idea to limit it to "best of" and now I know why they did.

You seem....confused. You apparently think sample-based ROMplers are the same thing as synthesizer emulations as software. You should probably just play with your silly toys and ignore threads like this, they clearly are not for you.

Who do you think you are?
I am a musician who plays several instruments on highest level.

Honestly, I don't believe you.

Honestly, I have changed my mind after two hours playing with it. Have you ever changed your mind in your life? Uvi impresses more at first cuz it has "best of" and mainly e-pianos.
This synth is a miracle to me, didn't impress a lot at first, I think it has character, though and maybe even the bad reverb is to blame for it.
The funniest thing is I won't buy it, but recommended it to several people, just can't justify to buy one more plugin in these dark days.
I made some (3 completely different sessions with different styles) audio with sounds from the synth only and sent it to them with quite positive feedback
It is sad he releases an interesting plugin so late, so many plugins were released before and ai obviously is the future anyway. We needed more Yamaha generally already 12+ years ago.
So man different Roland and Korg emus available, but they give me rather one-sided house and techno vibes (there is also good house! or edm of course, only CA's Jupiter convinced me to buy a Roland), whereas Yamaha rather inspires creativity for all kinds of music and also the haptic feel of their real instruments is fantastic, the keys of Yamaha are so good, so very good.
More and more daw users have reached the peak of purchasing plugins - no more gas! BF-2 release was a dream come true, I know I am not the only one who has been waiting for so long, I saw someone even crying tears of joy after the release. Now I have it, what else would I need?!
Just one more thing: These days a "ai-free product" label would be nice, there are people who are not going to support any ai.
I give an award of respect first to Yamaha and also to dev of Swayed.

[xplorax]

I deleted my post because there are too many "know-it-alls" here who just pick on other users instead of offering a constructive feedback — though fortunately, two or three people managed to do just that. Thank you to them! And to the smart alecks, I’d say you’re welcome to skip commenting if you have nothing to say but clever dicking. Peace-out and happy Easter everyone!

[jbraner]

It worked for me - for 10 minutes, then I just reloaded the plugin in Reaper (takes 5 secs.) and it was fine.

Then I bought it

[Tubeman]

Why is there some unnecessary drama in almost every thread on KVR?

[mmccarthy]

Why is there some unnecessary drama in almost every thread on KVR?

Unfortunately that seems to just be a general internet thing.

Though people complaining about only getting a 5 minute demo where it's in fact a 10 minute demo that simply requires a quick restart is frankly hilarious.

Maybe if Sheaf took away all the demo restrictions, this person would be more willing to pay for it

[Spitfire31]

There is no need to restart the host daw! Just unmount Swayed and instantiate it again. Takes max 15 seconds in Live 12.
/JHS

[abi]

Hi community, I’ve been eagerly awaiting the release of Swayed and am absolutely willing to pay the 99 euros or dollars for the plugin — after I’ve had a chance to test it thoroughly. But that’s simply not possible with a total demo time of only 5 minutes. Even after restarting Cubase 15 Pro and Swayed, the signal was muted after a very short time. Seriously?! That’s a real turn-off! Am I the only one who’s disappointed by this? Long story short - until I can put Swayed through its paces, I won't buy it. Too bad.

Peace-out and happy Easter everyone!

The only feature you really should test is modulating operators with samples. For example, take a bass sound from the library with awm and play with the routing matrix and feed the awm as a modulator to one of the operators. By changing the waveform you get so many beautiful textures…As soon as I had managed that I quickly felt that I needed this plugin. You can’t do that with ops7 or opsix.

[DCrown]

Hi community, I’ve been eagerly awaiting the release of Swayed and am absolutely willing to pay the 99 euros or dollars for the plugin — after I’ve had a chance to test it thoroughly. But that’s simply not possible with a total demo time of only 5 minutes. Even after restarting Cubase 15 Pro and Swayed, the signal was muted after a very short time. Seriously?! That’s a real turn-off! Am I the only one who’s disappointed by this? Long story short - until I can put Swayed through its paces, I won't buy it. Too bad.

Peace-out and happy Easter everyone!

The only feature you really should test is modulating operators with samples. For example, take a bass sound from the library with awm and play with the routing matrix and feed the awm as a modulator to one of the operators. By changing the waveform you get so many beautiful textures…As soon as I had managed that I quickly felt that I needed this plugin. You can’t do that with ops7 or opsix.

I would also prefer a hum noise every ten seconds instead lol

[bermudagold]

Hi community, I’ve been eagerly awaiting the release of Swayed and am absolutely willing to pay the 99 euros or dollars for the plugin — after I’ve had a chance to test it thoroughly. But that’s simply not possible with a total demo time of only 5 minutes. Even after restarting Cubase 15 Pro and Swayed, the signal was muted after a very short time. Seriously?! That’s a real turn-off! Am I the only one who’s disappointed by this? Long story short - until I can put Swayed through its paces, I won't buy it. Too bad.

Peace-out and happy Easter everyone!

The only feature you really should test is modulating operators with samples. For example, take a bass sound from the library with awm and play with the routing matrix and feed the awm as a modulator to one of the operators. By changing the waveform you get so many beautiful textures…As soon as I had managed that I quickly felt that I needed this plugin. You can’t do that with ops7 or opsix.

you have been able to do it for over a decade with biotek and fm8...and if we are just talking using samples as lfo modulators or in reverse FMing samples,..there have been tons of tools

[IvyBirds]

Hi community, I’ve been eagerly awaiting the release of Swayed and am absolutely willing to pay the 99 euros or dollars for the plugin — after I’ve had a chance to test it thoroughly. But that’s simply not possible with a total demo time of only 5 minutes. Even after restarting Cubase 15 Pro and Swayed, the signal was muted after a very short time. Seriously?! That’s a real turn-off! Am I the only one who’s disappointed by this? Long story short - until I can put Swayed through its paces, I won't buy it. Too bad.

Peace-out and happy Easter everyone!

The only feature you really should test is modulating operators with samples. For example, take a bass sound from the library with awm and play with the routing matrix and feed the awm as a modulator to one of the operators. By changing the waveform you get so many beautiful textures…As soon as I had managed that I quickly felt that I needed this plugin. You can’t do that with ops7 or opsix.

you have been able to do it for over a decade with biotek and fm8...and if we are just talking using samples as lfo modulators or in reverse FMing samples,..there have been tons of tools

No you haven't

Biotek is limited to 4 Oscillators/operators while SWAYED has 6 FM Operators and you have all 6 available without sacrificing any of them to modulate it with a sample using RCM and you can do waveshaping with 0Hz operators something you can't do with Biotek

For FM Biotek absolutely pales in comparison and it's not even close. You can make so many timbres with Swayed that you can never do with Biotek

FM 8 doesn't even allow for samples as operators you have to use external audio which is a pain especially when creating and saving patches and just like Biotek doesn't allow for 0hz waveshaping

[Tj Shredder]

And what about F’em? Does the SY approach has the complete envelopes of the DX7 instead of limited ADSR? That is what I miss in most synth plugins…

[IvyBirds]

And what about F’em? Does the SY approach has the complete envelopes of the DX7 instead of limited ADSR? That is what I miss in most synth plugins…

The SY77 envelopes are actually deeper than those in the DX7 you get 6 Rates + 6 Levels instead of the four of the DX7 and the envelopes are able to loop

the envelope velocity rate scaling enables playing style to alter the relative timing of the envelopes, such that hard playing reduces the attack time but gentle playing increases attack time this is in addition to the rate scaling, which makes envelopes shorter or longer for higher notes

And you can use the envelopes to have a delayed start time

The SY77 envelopes are some of the most powerful and deepest Yamaha ever made

[slaambo]

LOVE the name SWAYED. It's reminiscent of gentle dance movement, while 'to hold sway' also seems apposite 'coz this plug rules and dominates. (I haven't enjoyed a softsynth so much since the momentous birth of Pigments.) Then there's 'suede' to consider, textural, soft and subtle. And what about 'persuade'?

Is anyone swayed by my perspective?

[Tj Shredder]

The SY77 envelopes are some of the most powerful and deepest Yamaha ever made

Thanks, that is good to know. The surge team actually enhanced dexed with MPE. As the SY77 was multitimbral, a mode that simply loads the same patch on all slots, would create a channel per voice mode, which is almost MPE and in most cases close enough…
Just an idea…

[cslevine]

OOHHH !
. . . . ....... i am LATE !