Vibe coded plugins
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- KVRAF
- 2771 posts since 24 Nov, 2023
SureAgileAI wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2026 1:51 am "Apple, Microsoft, Linux, Google, etc all use AI to write code at the OS level."
Citation please.
Apple
https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/05 ... uggy-tools
Microsoft
https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/30/ ... utocoding/
Linux
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47 ... t%20behind.
Of course as mentioned earlier Google is all over AI and wants it's Gemini AI Tool to be the dominate player in AI
So yes is you post at all on this forum you are using AI powered software
- KVRAF
- 8471 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
It's really akin to using a smart database with auto-query at this point. The intelligence part of AI is misleading pretty much. Technology really has a long way to go before intelligence really becomes applicable. IMO anyway, personally I don't use AI at all, even siri.
In other words, it remains just a tool for a while yet I expect.
In other words, it remains just a tool for a while yet I expect.
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- KVRist
- 370 posts since 18 May, 2020
Apple rejects / bans / removes vibe coding apps from the appstore, no?
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- KVRian
- 924 posts since 24 Sep, 2016
Vital is still being developed. There was a 1.6 update about a week ago and 1.6.1 came out 2-3 days ago and we have 1.6.2(Windows only atm).billinder33 wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 7:44 pm Devs have been copy-pasting code in the wild for years. This is just the next evolution.
Pretty sure a couple of plugins I'm currently using are partly or mostly vibe coded. And they all work.
Only real fear is that the developer goes dark and stops supporting. But that could happen whether the plugin is vibe coded or not - Vital being a perfect example.
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"I believe every music producer inherently has something unique about the way they make music. They just have to identify what makes them different, and develop it" - Max Martin
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- KVRian
- 924 posts since 24 Sep, 2016
There was no changelog which kinda sucks.3lu5iv3 wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2026 3:39 amVital is still being developed. There was a 1.6 update about a week ago and 1.6.1 came out 2-3 days ago and we have 1.6.2(Windows only atm).billinder33 wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 7:44 pm Devs have been copy-pasting code in the wild for years. This is just the next evolution.
Pretty sure a couple of plugins I'm currently using are partly or mostly vibe coded. And they all work.
Only real fear is that the developer goes dark and stops supporting. But that could happen whether the plugin is vibe coded or not - Vital being a perfect example.
SoundCloud
"I believe every music producer inherently has something unique about the way they make music. They just have to identify what makes them different, and develop it" - Max Martin
"I believe every music producer inherently has something unique about the way they make music. They just have to identify what makes them different, and develop it" - Max Martin
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- KVRian
- 923 posts since 13 Jul, 2006
I recently vibe coded a simple plugin for myself, because while my needs were simple, there was no free plugin that I liked.
See https://github.com/Fannon/ChordLens
I'm a software dev, but not familiar with building audio plugins and writing Rust or C++, so this was nice to see that I can still do it with that assistance. Also, I'm not sure the quality of coding agents is as worse as people think, they are getting better and better. Honestly, there are many human devs which write worse code. I mean, we're now at a point where coding agents can find and exploit bugs in software better than humans, leading to huge security discussions right now.
See https://github.com/Fannon/ChordLens
I'm a software dev, but not familiar with building audio plugins and writing Rust or C++, so this was nice to see that I can still do it with that assistance. Also, I'm not sure the quality of coding agents is as worse as people think, they are getting better and better. Honestly, there are many human devs which write worse code. I mean, we're now at a point where coding agents can find and exploit bugs in software better than humans, leading to huge security discussions right now.
Find my (music) related software projects here: github.com/Fannon
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- KVRian
- 923 posts since 13 Jul, 2006
Anyway, I think the quality will now probably be more related to the care that went into QA and Product Design / Concept than on the fact whether it has been coded by hand or via coding agents (for simpler projects).
I don't think coding agents could build really complex and innovative projects like let's say Zebra 3 with new filter designs.
I don't think coding agents could build really complex and innovative projects like let's say Zebra 3 with new filter designs.
Find my (music) related software projects here: github.com/Fannon
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- KVRian
- 805 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Oregon, USA
I'm sure some vibe coders will attempt to write a Zebra 4 clone and initially it shows some promise but then it starts crashing and sub-sequent prompt code generators makes it crash even harder. But it producers a square wave for five seconds!
- KVRist
- 493 posts since 24 Feb, 2008 from Germany
Hold my beer !
AI still needs human judgment. Someone has to check if what it produces is correct and makes sense. As Henry Ford said, “If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” The hard part is figuring out the right problem in the first place. That’s not something AI is great at. You give it a problem, it tries to solve it, but it doesn’t decide what’s worth solving. Starts with the code structure already. It will simply extend the existing files instead of properly splitting it up.
That’s why skilled developers still matter. Assisted coding might mean fewer programmers, but you still need people who can guide it and judge the results. I also see a difference between programmers and developers, they usually think about problems in different ways.
Which brings me to the second point, and yeah, that’s probably also yes. Assisted coding does reduce the need for programmers, and we’re already starting to see that. But you’ll still need developers who understand what’s going on and can evaluate the output. That works best if they could do the same thing without AI if they had to.
The interesting question is what happens next. If building software gets easier, we might just end up with way more of it. Maybe that balances things out. I’ve already started a few projects I wouldn’t have touched without AI. And one of my next projects might indeed be a small vst instrument that i think of since a while. Definitely interesting times.
I think the first answer is yes. An inexperienced developer can’t really tell if AI output is actually useful.jamcat wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2026 11:45 pm I think the real question we should be discussing now is, are you still going to buy software when you can just have AI build whatever you want for free?
Is it time for professional plugin developers to take up honest labour, like woodwork or plumbing?
AI still needs human judgment. Someone has to check if what it produces is correct and makes sense. As Henry Ford said, “If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” The hard part is figuring out the right problem in the first place. That’s not something AI is great at. You give it a problem, it tries to solve it, but it doesn’t decide what’s worth solving. Starts with the code structure already. It will simply extend the existing files instead of properly splitting it up.
That’s why skilled developers still matter. Assisted coding might mean fewer programmers, but you still need people who can guide it and judge the results. I also see a difference between programmers and developers, they usually think about problems in different ways.
Which brings me to the second point, and yeah, that’s probably also yes. Assisted coding does reduce the need for programmers, and we’re already starting to see that. But you’ll still need developers who understand what’s going on and can evaluate the output. That works best if they could do the same thing without AI if they had to.
The interesting question is what happens next. If building software gets easier, we might just end up with way more of it. Maybe that balances things out. I’ve already started a few projects I wouldn’t have touched without AI. And one of my next projects might indeed be a small vst instrument that i think of since a while. Definitely interesting times.
“The biggest crime of a musician is to play notes instead of making music.”
Isaac Stern
Isaac Stern
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- KVRer
- 7 posts since 31 Mar, 2026
My bad Ivybird, I took OS to be Kernel Level code. Thanks for the examplesIvyBirds wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2026 2:25 amSureAgileAI wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2026 1:51 am "Apple, Microsoft, Linux, Google, etc all use AI to write code at the OS level."
Citation please.
Apple
https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/05 ... uggy-tools
Microsoft
https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/30/ ... utocoding/
Linux
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47 ... t%20behind.
Of course as mentioned earlier Google is all over AI and wants it's Gemini AI Tool to be the dominate player in AI
So yes is you post at all on this forum you are using AI powered software
- KVRist
- 493 posts since 24 Feb, 2008 from Germany
I take everything back i said. Lumberjack is the way to go ...
https://techtrenches.dev/p/the-snake-th ... hat-claude
https://techtrenches.dev/p/the-snake-th ... hat-claude
“The biggest crime of a musician is to play notes instead of making music.”
Isaac Stern
Isaac Stern
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- KVRist
- 35 posts since 12 Jan, 2026
Interesting Thread. I stumpled over it via BRPB.
For me, Claude helped me a lot to finish actual HziLooper Plugin over the last 4 months. It failed hard sometimes, and sometimes it did its job quite good and saved me many iterations. I learned a lot while using AI Assist and solved things differently than i would have done without. Maybe this is good, maybe not. I mean, who will buy a 1 hour shit prompted plugin? Let it be.
I remember many debug sessions with headache and AI couldnt help me out and made it worse. So maybe you have to face this kind of pain so you can call yourself "not a vibe coder"
I'm really curious where this will go, throw something in and get it out fully working with decent quality is just a few steps ahead i guess, in many areas its already done, complex development is just some different tier. And then, as someone said quite right - its not about the result anymore, but about the process. Prompting only is just boring and not fun at all
For me, Claude helped me a lot to finish actual HziLooper Plugin over the last 4 months. It failed hard sometimes, and sometimes it did its job quite good and saved me many iterations. I learned a lot while using AI Assist and solved things differently than i would have done without. Maybe this is good, maybe not. I mean, who will buy a 1 hour shit prompted plugin? Let it be.
I remember many debug sessions with headache and AI couldnt help me out and made it worse. So maybe you have to face this kind of pain so you can call yourself "not a vibe coder"
I'm really curious where this will go, throw something in and get it out fully working with decent quality is just a few steps ahead i guess, in many areas its already done, complex development is just some different tier. And then, as someone said quite right - its not about the result anymore, but about the process. Prompting only is just boring and not fun at all
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- KVRAF
- 4720 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle
I’ve noticed a lot of fly-by-night developers putting out sub par products of late. Seems anybody can make a plugin now… Just not very well.
Are we going to see an analog revival, and go back to more hardware, built with talent by humans. Personally I’d love to see it.
Are we going to see an analog revival, and go back to more hardware, built with talent by humans. Personally I’d love to see it.
