Why do people here hate on cherry audio?

[Shabdahbriah]

I had just dismissed it as being attributed to Cherry Audio staffs lack of a 'trade show' fashion sense.

Personally, I don't care, unless it is specifically something functionally wrong with the device, that continues throughout various iterations. If I like something enough and think it is/will be useful, I get it. If not, I don't. Full stop.

Granted I only have (maybe) half-a-dozen things of theirs, outside of the stuff which is Voltage Modular specific, of which Atomika and Harmonium are stand outs.

[GaryG]

I mean, if something is supposed to sound like a thing, and it doesn't sound like that thing, then criticism is justified.

That's great but if you don't own the hardware and have never even tried the hardware, or if you did it was once or twice decades ago how can you actually know what a plugin emulating it is supposed to sound like?

That's getting into some thorny, uncomfortable territory; why would someone want a replica of a Jupiter 4 (say) if they never heard one or have some vague recollection from years ago? Because it has a reputation they've read about? I appreciate the real synth connoisseurs will be able to pinpoint what makes it unique so a recreation needs to nail those quirks or else...? I'm cynical I guess, in the 'if it sounds good' camp.

[GaryG]

My complaint about Cherry Audio isn't the sound (apart from the naff effects drenched all over their presets) - it's the godawful UIs on some of their synths. They're fine when it comes to simple synths like Miniverse or Atomika, but I don't know how anyone can stand to look at Sines or Dreamsynth for more than a minute without bleeding from the eyes. Generally with their larger synths the UIs feel so cluttered and hard to look at.

Yeah... I love Sines, honestly one of my favourites synths, so many lovely sounds yet that GUI is just bonkers. A rare case for me where I've got past the GUI because it offered more beyond it (I'm usually pretty shallow, have to admit )

A bigger criticism for me (and this isn't Cherry specific) are keyboards on synth plugins. I usually run everything pretty dark so having a slab of pure white across the GUI is quite distracting, wish all synths had the option to hide them.

[Examigan]

A bigger criticism for me (and this isn't Cherry specific) are keyboards on synth plugins. I usually run everything pretty dark so having a slab of pure white across the GUI is quite distracting, wish all synths had the option to hide them.

Yeah, it's nice that Dreamsynth doesn't have one.

[mumpcake]

It wouldn't be KVR if someone weren't hating on something.

[TechHaus]

Wild that this thread is 37 pages long

[DrGonzo]

My complaint about Cherry Audio isn't the sound (apart from the naff effects drenched all over their presets) - it's the godawful UIs on some of their synths. They're fine when it comes to simple synths like Miniverse or Atomika, but I don't know how anyone can stand to look at Sines or Dreamsynth for more than a minute without bleeding from the eyes.

Yes, Sines and Dreamsynth are great examples. Both are two of my favourite Cherry synths - crazy good sounds - yet feels like you are programming Motorola 68000 Assembler when making your own sounds.

[4_the masses]

It wouldn't be KVR if someone weren't hating on something.

100%. If folk don't like something or a company then move along and post something more positive about something else.

[DrOcsid]

It wouldn't be KVR if someone weren't hating on something.

100%. If folk don't like something or a company then move along and post something more positive about something else.

This kind of response never really makes any sense when anyone says it. It essentially amounts to "don't criticize anything ever". No one is entitled to dictate the flow of a conversation or whether people stay in it just because they don't personally like to see any complaints about the thing they like.

People who write off any and all dissent as easily-dismissable "hate" from "haters" in any conversation aren't really saying anything.

[BBFG#]

It wouldn't be KVR if someone weren't hating on something.

100%. If folk don't like something or a company then move along and post something more positive about something else.

This kind of response never really makes any sense when anyone says it. It essentially amounts to "don't criticize anything ever". No one is entitled to dictate the flow of a conversation or whether people stay in it just because they don't personally like to see any complaints about the thing they like.

People who write off any and all dissent as easily-dismissable "hate" from "haters" in any conversation aren't really saying anything.

Except that the current social attitudes lend more to "hate" being the "tail that wags the dog" . The drug of choice of indignation searching for things to attach it to.
Dissent and constructive criticism not often being inclusively intertwined.
One is a component of critical thinking. The other is the absence of it.

[DrOcsid]

It wouldn't be KVR if someone weren't hating on something.

100%. If folk don't like something or a company then move along and post something more positive about something else.

This kind of response never really makes any sense when anyone says it. It essentially amounts to "don't criticize anything ever". No one is entitled to dictate the flow of a conversation or whether people stay in it just because they don't personally like to see any complaints about the thing they like.

People who write off any and all dissent as easily-dismissable "hate" from "haters" in any conversation aren't really saying anything.

Except that the current social attitudes lend more to "hate" being the "tail that wags the dog" . The drug of choice of indignation searching for things to attach it to.
Dissent and constructive criticism not often being inclusively intertwined.
One is a component of critical thinking. The other is the absence of it.

Sure, in places that have algorithms specifically designed to feed off vitriol, but it's a bit different on an internet forum where nobody here is trying to be incendiary for the sake of clicks on a video. Part of critical thinking is knowing when "hate" actually is hate, versus when it's just an opinion someone doesn't want to see. People too often mistake the latter for the former.

[Uncle E]

Part of critical thinking is knowing when "hate" actually is hate, versus when it's just an opinion someone doesn't want to see. People too often mistake the latter for the former.

True, but I get why people get triggered. It seems like more often than not, people word their opinions in such a way to make it sound like anyone not sharing those opinions is an idiot.

[abernathy]

I think it’s funny when someone clicks on a “hate” thread to complain about hate threads.

[Uncle E]

I think it’s funny when someone clicks on a “hate” thread to complain about hate threads.

I liked your original post.

[BBFG#]

It wouldn't be KVR if someone weren't hating on something.

100%. If folk don't like something or a company then move along and post something more positive about something else.

This kind of response never really makes any sense when anyone says it. It essentially amounts to "don't criticize anything ever". No one is entitled to dictate the flow of a conversation or whether people stay in it just because they don't personally like to see any complaints about the thing they like.

People who write off any and all dissent as easily-dismissable "hate" from "haters" in any conversation aren't really saying anything.

Except that the current social attitudes lend more to "hate" being the "tail that wags the dog" . The drug of choice of indignation searching for things to attach it to.
Dissent and constructive criticism not often being inclusively intertwined.
One is a component of critical thinking. The other is the absence of it.

Sure, in places that have algorithms specifically designed to feed off vitriol, but it's a bit different on an internet forum where nobody here is trying to be incendiary for the sake of clicks on a video. Part of critical thinking is knowing when "hate" actually is hate, versus when it's just an opinion someone doesn't want to see. People too often mistake the latter for the former.

Forums are not only not exempt, they are often the rule. I find more examples of psychological patholigies here than anywhere else on the Internet. Sometimes, certain ones being the only example I've ever come across outside the class and textbooks I've studied from. Far more than the typical group think cognitive distortions that algorithms exploit and exist across the WWW.