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zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon May 11, 2026 2:57 pm

Even if they would rather you do a full install, they still wouldn't need your ilok user name etc..

It doesn't upset me..I just find it strange that you are saying they are "pretending it's not currently possible as far as their online material goes." When all they are doing is not communicating in an explicit/clear way that it can be done..
As to why they are communicating this way, I have no idea.
But I know for a fact at least up to December last year it can be done.

rsp

ThoughtExperiment · Post by **ThoughtExperiment** » Mon May 11, 2026 3:01 pm

Amberience wrote: Mon May 11, 2026 2:14 pm I am not convinced that Native Access will be around in 2 years time.

Uh-oh

Please don't say it's going to be replaced by the 'Software Center'...suddenly my 'wait and see' policy is having a little wobble, because I guess you know something we don't yet?

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon May 11, 2026 3:11 pm

zvenx wrote: Mon May 11, 2026 2:57 pm Even if they would rather you do a full install, they still wouldn't need your ilok user name etc..

It doesn't upset me..I just find it strange that you are saying they are "pretending it's not currently possible as far as their online material goes." When all they are doing is not communicating in an explicit/clear way that it can be done..
As to why they are communicating this way, I have no idea.
But I know for a fact at least up to December last year it can be done.

rsp

Could also be that some people (especially those who want their DAW to always be offline) prefer ilok protection and would prefer an uninstall and reinstall of the ilok version.
rsp

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Mon May 11, 2026 3:33 pm

"iLok Protection" is an oxymoron.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Mon May 11, 2026 4:38 pm

BBFG# wrote: Mon May 11, 2026 3:33 pm "iLok Protection" is an oxymoron.

ksandvik · Post by **ksandvik** » Mon May 11, 2026 7:03 pm

Native Access will be fine if they stick to it and improve it, rather than making a yet another similar tool (the bane of past NI).

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Mon May 11, 2026 7:34 pm

I don't think that Inmusic can do worse than what NI has done for years so i am looking forward to see what will happen in the near future.
Looking forward to Air Xpand! and Kontakt bundle sales for $10

felis · Post by **felis** » Mon May 11, 2026 10:17 pm

I think Moog is doing pretty good under Inmusic.

Scoops · Post by **Scoops** » Tue May 12, 2026 11:19 am

Teksonik wrote: Mon May 11, 2026 11:57 am
Scoops wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 8:43 pm For me, I just disable the NTKDaemon at startup
You mean change the "NTKDaemonService" start up type to disabled? Does that affect the way Native Access works?

For some clarity from my side. I rarely if ever go in and do updates with NA. It's a crap shoot. So yes, I disable the NTKDaemon service at startup. The exe is still on my machine, but the service is not running. If for any reason I need to open NA, the exe will start up. When I'm done with NA, I go back and disable the service

Scoops

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue May 12, 2026 1:45 pm

Scoops wrote: Tue May 12, 2026 11:19 am For some clarity from my side. I rarely if ever go in and do updates with NA. It's a crap shoot. So yes, I disable the NTKDaemon service at startup. The exe is still on my machine, but the service is not running. If for any reason I need to open NA, the exe will start up. When I'm done with NA, I go back and disable the service

Okay thanks I'll try that next time Native Access installs the NTKDaemon.exe as I have already deleted it this time. I ran NA a couple of days ago just to do some updates and make sure I have everything installed that I want so I don't see having to run it again for quite some time. All the plugins work fine without the daemon.exe and with it gone or disabled we don't have to put up with it constantly sending and receiving data all day long even when we're not using NI plugins:

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Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue May 12, 2026 1:54 pm

ksandvik wrote: Mon May 11, 2026 7:03 pm Native Access will be fine if they stick to it and improve it, rather than making a yet another similar tool (the bane of past NI).

It's possible they might use the InMusic Software Center going forward just to keep everything under one app.

https://www.airmusictech.com/downloads/

To be honest I'd welcome that change.

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Tue May 12, 2026 2:13 pm

Teksonik wrote: Tue May 12, 2026 1:54 pm
ksandvik wrote: Mon May 11, 2026 7:03 pm Native Access will be fine if they stick to it and improve it, rather than making a yet another similar tool (the bane of past NI).
It's possible they might use the InMusic Software Center going forward just to keep everything under one app.

https://www.airmusictech.com/downloads/

To be honest I'd welcome that change.

So you want a 90 day reactivation app instead of how it is today?

dayjob · Post by **dayjob** » Tue May 12, 2026 2:24 pm

ksandvik wrote: Mon May 11, 2026 7:03 pm Native Access will be fine if they stick to it and improve it, rather than making a yet another similar tool (the bane of past NI).

yes. please don't entangle another app for software downloads.. izotope + NI was more than enough of a pain.. rolling another in there would be a real turd in the punchbowl... and the punch isn't even that tasty as is.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Tue May 12, 2026 4:07 pm

D-Fusion wrote: Tue May 12, 2026 2:13 pm
Teksonik wrote: Tue May 12, 2026 1:54 pm
ksandvik wrote: Mon May 11, 2026 7:03 pm Native Access will be fine if they stick to it and improve it, rather than making a yet another similar tool (the bane of past NI).
It's possible they might use the InMusic Software Center going forward just to keep everything under one app.
https://www.airmusictech.com/downloads/
To be honest I'd welcome that change.
So you want a 90 day reactivation app instead of how it is today?

None of my non-ilok Air plugins that were installed with the InMusic Software Center have asked for a "90 day reactivation" yet and I've had them installed longer than 90 days.

But yeah, even if they did I'd be fine with that over Native Abscess.

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Tue May 12, 2026 4:18 pm

Teksonik wrote: Tue May 12, 2026 1:54 pm
ksandvik wrote: Mon May 11, 2026 7:03 pm Native Access will be fine if they stick to it and improve it, rather than making a yet another similar tool (the bane of past NI).
It's possible they might use the InMusic Software Center going forward just to keep everything under one app.

https://www.airmusictech.com/downloads/

To be honest I'd welcome that change.

FYI InMusic use a 90 day check in CP routine, iLok does not do this. You're literally rooting for a much more invasive system.

I think we need to think as end users about petitioning InMusic to change to NI's system. I haven't seen any random de-authorizations with their version, but again InMusics system is the worst of the three options, and I wouldn't recommend anyone replacing iLok with it, unless you like randomly de-authorized plugins every couple months especially if your DAW computer is offline.

I wish everyone would adopt U-He's new system, and/or stop worrying about the teenage pirates.

Native Instruments to be acquired by inMusic