Fender Studio Pro 8 Released

[Vocalpoint Studios]

The Gibson fiasco was to purchase OpCode which was IMHO the best MIDI DAW at that time and running it to the ground by not funding it. We need to have a time perspective if this happens with Fender / Studio One.

The "time perspective" is already long over.

Gentle reminder that Fender purchased Presonus in November 2021.

They have already done almost 5 years of due dilgence, provided all the funding and everything needed to properly rebrand Studio One and prepare it for success in the long term.

Gibson and that mid 2010's debacle is not even in the same universe as this.

Kinda boggles my mind when I see folks somehow thinking this Fender "takeover" occurred on the day Studio Pro was released. That rebrand has been in the works for half a decade.

VP

[qtheerearranger]

studio one needs modulators like bitwig and cubase.

[EnGee]

This lawsuit that they won has the potential to be devastating to many retail sellers and is a direct attack on the community itself. People generally don't want to be associated to companies that behave like bullies. But from what I understand they only send a cease and desist letter to the retailers, no new lawsuits as of now. Time will tell.

This is true! Although, I'm not sure of how big companies like PRS, Ibanez, Yamaha ... etc would be affected! Is it in Europe only? What about Asia, Oceania and other parts of the world?

I personally have two fender clones from Yamaha (a Strat and a bass). There are many fender clones by big companies here in NZ. What will happen to them?

I think it is a stupid move! But it is a stupid world! So, anything can fit!

[BONES]

You're the definition of the Dunning-Kruger effect. I've literally been tutored by working composers, and finished several courses taught by working composers, that includes every little detail of what the process is from start to finish. Perhabs you should join one of our Thinkspace discords so you can tell all the composers there what clueless idiots they are, since you're the true expert.

Oh, sorry, you've done courses. Spend a lot of money on them, did you? You must know so much more than I've been able to learn in 40+ years of music production and 30+ years earning a living in film and television.

[noremorze]

This lawsuit that they won has the potential to be devastating to many retail sellers and is a direct attack on the community itself. People generally don't want to be associated to companies that behave like bullies. But from what I understand they only send a cease and desist letter to the retailers, no new lawsuits as of now. Time will tell.

This is true! Although, I'm not sure of how big companies like PRS, Ibanez, Yamaha ... etc would be affected! Is it in Europe only? What about Asia, Oceania and other parts of the world?

I personally have two fender clones from Yamaha (a Strat and a bass). There are many fender clones by big companies here in NZ. What will happen to them?

I think it is a stupid move! But it is a stupid world! So, anything can fit!

Yes, it's a stupid move for sure. From a quick glance through some comments from people with a law degree, they don't even think it's possible. I'm sure their lawyers know it too, so what's even the point? And even if it was, not a single guitar company was better off after alienating retailers with stuff like this. The only thing they do is lose more market position. Lots of people already were quite negative about Fender taking over PreSonus and/or moved on. This does not help in any shape or form.

[BONES]

I've literally explained what the process is for composers, that is information that comes directly from working composers

So by "working", you mean people whose names we could look up on IMDB? In any event, as I've been trying to explain to you, you're not them, you're not in their situations, so what works for them isn't necessarily what you need to be doing where you are. Moreover, just doing what they are doing doesn't mean you'll ever have any success.

I think you probably need to go and get some experience making music in a band or something. Touring, releasing records and all that stuff. Or get a job in a studio. Get involved with the industry, get your name about, not as a composer of film scores but as a hard worker who gets results. None of the big names came out of nowhere, they all earned their stripes, they all had careers in music before they became film composers. They came up with their process through long experience. It might work for them but that doesn't mean it will work for you or anyone else. I'm sure there is plenty of useful advice but you need to have your own experience to be able to sort the wheat from the chaff.

You're trying to take shortcuts but that's not how it works. Have a look at what Hans Zimmer used on some of his early soundtracks. I think he did one with just (or mostly) a Roland MKS-20 or something. Things like that got him more work not because he had a template with 200 pre-loaded instruments but because he is a talented composer who works his arse off.

It's a very common thing around here - people are far too focused on the process instead of concentrating on results. Write some good music, don't get caught up in how it's done, focus on the creative side of it. You can work out a process later, once somebody takes a bit of notice of what you can do.

[noremorze]

studio one needs modulators like bitwig and cubase.

Doubt that such would be added during this cycle, if it was to be added. Would also love to see an updated Chord Track, the way it works in Cubase is so much better with automatic voice leading. Also a bit weird that you can have a Chord Track in the MIDI editor, but for some reason can't drag and drop there, but you'll have use the one on the top of the project page. But, they've updated it for 8, so I doubt we're going to see any changes to it anytime soon again. Fender also talked about better integration with S1's score editor and Notion or something like that, hopefully we'll get to see that soon.

[chk071]

studio one needs modulators like bitwig and cubase.

That's my #1 feature request as well.

[Crossinger]

Cubase did a remarkable job with the modulator integration. Within the “limitations” of their UI (sorry ) it feels quite natural. I could try it on my buddy’s machine, and it was fun to use.

[lfm]

studio one needs modulators like bitwig and cubase.

I remember from running v4(not checked in you could apply various waveforms to automation lanes and stuff.
- this seems rather useful at times
- could be seen as a modulator, or?

What is it that not normal modulating plugins through a bus would accomplish?

Aren't there more useful workflow stuff they could work on?
- making folder tracks in arrange view and mixer expand/collapse same way as Reaper allow
- and endless more like this

Is going too genre specifik as good idea?

[Crossinger]

Aren't there more useful workflow stuff they could work on?

Ask 5 people and you’ll get 10 different answers.

[noremorze]

Quess today is not the day for the update. Maybe next week.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

Quess today is not the day for the update. Maybe next week.

Why would you think today is not the day? It is VERY early.

But I agree - historically - Presonus/Fender has always liked Tuesdays...AND - all three of the v8 releases so far - have been Tuesdays....

VP

[chk071]

studio one needs modulators like bitwig and cubase.

I remember from running v4(not checked in you could apply various waveforms to automation lanes and stuff.
- this seems rather useful at times
- could be seen as a modulator, or?

If you take a look at Cubase's implementation, it's a lot faster to work with, and a lot more flexible:



Also, Studio One lacks a sample & hold waveform for automation. I actually posted that as a feature request on their Presonus Answers page once, but, you know how it is...

I.e., automation isn't the same for me. Modulators are more of a creative tool, and less of a permanent automation "envelope". Also, if I'm honest, most automation implementations in DAW were quite cumbersome to me.

[noremorze]

Quess today is not the day for the update. Maybe next week.

Why would you think today is not the day? It is VERY early.

But I agree - historically - Presonus/Fender has always liked Tuesdays...AND - all three of the v8 releases so far - have been Tuesdays....

VP

impatience most likely Just a sucker for new versions. TBF, it's almost 5 PM here, usually it would have been released already, or around this time. I do miss the times where they would semi-announce new versions in advance on their YT channel.