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Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Tue May 19, 2026 2:35 pm

deggy wrote: Wed May 13, 2026 12:37 am God, I'm so embarrassed by the bullshit I wrote 20 years ago. Two decades later, ya Moby is great. Voodoo Child Baby Monkey is great. Play and 18 went on to become fav records of mine, over the years. Sorry I ever wrote that. God, I was so pretentious

Tbf, after the first couple of tracks 18 does veer off a cliff.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Tue May 19, 2026 5:32 pm

He’s one of those hipsters who is good at taking some essential bit of other music and repackaging it for white people who could not handle the raw material.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Thu May 21, 2026 9:30 pm

zerocrossing wrote: Tue May 19, 2026 5:32 pm He’s one of those hipsters who is good at taking some essential bit of other music and repackaging it for white people who could not handle the raw material.

So, identical to almost all music made by any white musician anywhere, anytime. Not a racist comment at all, because obvs music made by non-white musicians are totally 100% original always, and all non-white audiences can obvs listen unbiased to anything, unlike all of those blinkered white audiences.

I really would suggest engaging brain before commenting that sort of thing...

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Thu May 21, 2026 9:35 pm

I'm reluctant to engage in the last post, but it IS valid to point out the sample sources that made Moby rich.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Thu May 21, 2026 9:40 pm

Yes. And it's fine to specifically slag off Moby's sampling because he or his audience is white? Nobody else uses sampling? Like vast swathes of black music hasn't based itself on wholesale sampling tailored to it's own audience? I can't see how slagging off Moby is justifiable in any way because he or his audience is white. AND...nobody non-white has ever listened to Moby?

I get it, it's a throwaway comment hopefully meant well, but man it's deeply racist.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu May 21, 2026 10:01 pm

also, id say "introduced a lot of people to music they hadn't heard before" they're probably people of all shades though.

also, im pretty sure he was rich long before 18 was released.

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Thu May 21, 2026 10:06 pm

I was referring to Play as the one that 'made him rich'. I'm not clear on sample sources later on.

TechHaus · Post by **TechHaus** » Thu May 21, 2026 10:06 pm

Watch the highly underrated and bizarre Southland Tales.

Some good Moby in there.

And also his ambient tracks from when he lived in LA that I downloaded like 10 years ago are good enough to help my adhd when I need sound.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu May 21, 2026 10:09 pm

TechHaus wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 10:06 pm

And also his ambient tracks from when he lived in LA that I downloaded like 10 years ago are good enough to help my adhd when I need sound.

awesome

glad you found something to ease you're mind.

TechHaus · Post by **TechHaus** » Thu May 21, 2026 10:13 pm

vurt wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 10:09 pm
TechHaus wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 10:06 pm

And also his ambient tracks from when he lived in LA that I downloaded like 10 years ago are good enough to help my adhd when I need sound.
awesome
glad you found something to ease you're mind.

Also have some nasty misophonia.

Ambient music is a must for me. My girlfriend doesn't like the scary stuff like Tim Hecker or Nikolas Jaar or whatever.

But we also have all of the pandemic air purifiers to blast for noise now.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu May 21, 2026 10:54 pm

'Into the Blue' was excellent but it was Mimi Goese who really carried it

For me the big problem with Moby is the same problem with a lot of modern music that relies too heavily on samples to make the track worth listening to - 'Why does my heart feel so bad' being a good example - I only really love it because the sample is great, so really he's just piggybacking off that (but so does a lot of music these days)

badpioneer · Post by **badpioneer** » Thu May 21, 2026 11:21 pm

I don't know why I'm commenting on this, but I'm surprised I'm the first to complain in this thread that Moby's early single "Go" is just the Twin Peaks theme with a 4 on the 4 kick added. It's not even mixed well! And Angelo Badalamenti was a contemporary composer doing excellent electronic music (along with David Lynch) so it's not like Moby was sampling something from the past.

Mind you, lots of cheesy IP-infringing tracks were popular in that time, but "Go" is not even good by those standards. He couldn't bother to even attempt to make an interesting variation on the song, and instead ruined and made it worse in every possible way.

I'd be glad about his support for animal rights if he didn't give the cause a bad name. And the Natalie Portman stalking was creepy as hell. Plus he tried to make it sound like they worked it out and she publicly stated they had done nothing of the sort.

So many major artists deserving of attention and listening from that era, or any other era, besides him. The best thing Moby ever did was getting dissed by Eminem!

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Thu May 21, 2026 11:37 pm

https://youtu.be/NLCHARjjrws?list=RDNLCHARjjrws
https://youtu.be/nCn3LYqCnrk?list=RDnCn3LYqCnrk

Have to say...I don't see it. Doesn't sound remotely similar to me.

Maybe my hearing is finally gone and I'm completely deaf now and missing the obvious, it's possible.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Thu May 21, 2026 11:41 pm

Danno wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 9:35 pm I'm reluctant to engage in the last post, but it IS valid to point out the sample sources that made Moby rich.

There’s a really funny podcast by a guy named Jonathan Goldstein called Heavyweight, and it’s all about the guy who loaned Moby those CDs, and then Moby refused to return them.

https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/heavywe ... ate-gregor

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Thu May 21, 2026 11:54 pm

I think the Twin Peaks cue was called "Laura Palmer's Theme"

Does anyone else find Moby's music to be highly over-rated