EightySix — Roland JUNO-6 Clone (v1.1 UPDATE - Velocity Response, Poly Aftertouch)

[Morphoice]

Yes, the 8-voice limit is intentional -- this is accurate to how a JUNO-6 behaves, and actually gives you two extra voices over a real JUNO. Voices get stolen by new notes before the attack has even had a chance to fully play out, just like the real hardware. Overlapping long sustained chords isn't something a JUNO can do, so this is not a bug. That said, we will consider making the limit user-configurable in the final release for users who have the CPU power to spare, once we get there.

[Uncle E]

v1.0.4 has a 6-voice limit on my computer. Also, I think the voice stealing is not working correctly. A Juno-60 does First-In, First-Out (FIFO). With EightSix, it's simply stopping me from being able to play any notes above the voice limit.

[Morphoice]

I don't know Gridshift. Does the same behavior show in Logic / Cubase / Ableton? That would help me tell whether the issue is plugin-side or specific to Gridshift. I'm bumping the voice count to 16 at the next revision, but then people might complain about CPU again.

[Uncle E]

Yes, it's happening in Studio One and Luna. It's also happening with to some degree with Unstable, although less abruptly. Maybe it's just voice stealing in both cases, since there are 4 notes happening at the same time on the downbeat. On my system, both synths are limited to 6 voices in all DAW's and neither one uses FIFO voice stealing.

[Vortifex]

Trying 1.05. Chorus setting still not remembered. The default wet really needs to be at 50% not 60%.

[Morphoice]

Trying 1.05. Chorus setting still not remembered. The default wet really needs to be at 50% not 60%.

We found that 60% matches our hardware unit perfectly, hence chose that value as defalt. If you JUNO-6 measures differently feel free to send us the exact measurements for conparison. Who serviced the unit? Which BBD chips are used?

[Vortifex]

Well I can't argue with the hardware you own. But if the chorus remembered when its settings are changed it would become a non-issue anyway.

[Morphoice]

Yes, it's happening in Studio One and Luna. It's also happening with to some degree with Unstable, although less abruptly. Maybe it's just voice stealing in both cases, since there are 4 notes happening at the same time on the downbeat. On my system, both synths are limited to 6 voices in all DAW's and neither one uses FIFO voice stealing.

Is this still about version 1.0.4 or the new one that came out yesterday? I have significantly upped the voice count, which should resolve your problem.

[Morphoice]

Well I can't argue with the hardware you own. But if the chorus remembered when its settings are changed it would become a non-issue anyway.

The Juno-6 chorus has fixed chorus settings for Mode I and Mode II — that's how the original hardware works, and EightySix replicates that accurately. The knobs let you tweak beyond the original on a per-preset basis, and those changes are saved with the preset. But switching back to Mode I or II will always give you the original hardware values. That's by design, not a bug.

[Uncle E]

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[Morphoice]

1.0.5 has 16 voices

[Uncle E]

Thanks! I edited my post.

[Weasel-Boy]

Lastly, I think it's bad form to suggest your product is better than that of a specific developer, especially when that developer has a long established reputation for quality, something which you've yet to attain.

What he said. I'm surprised you haven't removed that crap from the subject title yet.

[trusampler]

Getting some rather nice tones from this one. great job

[Morphoice]

Reopening the chorus DSP today while I've got a hardware unit on the bench for servicing — good time to take some more measurements. EightySix's chorus sounds great so far, but it's still not as close to the hardware as I want it to be.