Arturia Memory V - Memorymoog Emulation out now

[Choikdoi]

how are minibrute and pigments not on the level of the competition?? Especially Pigments has some tricks no other synth has...i mean,,you can actually use the grains (of the granular mode) as a modulation source for the filters..It is actually one of the most capable all round instruments in vst-land. Minibrute just sounds brute..like it should

Because we were specifically discussing the issue of Arturia lacking in the low end. Nothing to do with granular modes and other features or overall capabilities. So, I was only saying it in that sense; still lacking to the competition in terms of having weaker low end, despite hearing improvements in that department with MiniBrute & the last Pigments update, which I would have thought would have hopefully continued in to further new releases. But it seems to have gone missing again with Memory V.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I'm sure it's fairly common knowledge, but I think the hodge-podge is in part due to Arturia outsourcing quite a bit of the development. I'm sure they have some in-house DSP people, but I know they've outsourced quite a bit of the DSP for the V-Collection and FX Collection.

[exmatproton]

how are minibrute and pigments not on the level of the competition?? Especially Pigments has some tricks no other synth has...i mean,,you can actually use the grains (of the granular mode) as a modulation source for the filters..It is actually one of the most capable all round instruments in vst-land. Minibrute just sounds brute..like it should

Because we were specifically discussing the issue of Arturia lacking in the low end. Nothing to do with granular modes and other features or overall capabilities. So, I was only saying it in that sense; still lacking to the competition in terms of having weaker low end, despite hearing improvements in that department with MiniBrute & the last Pigments update, which I would have thought would have hopefully continued in to further new releases. But it seems to have gone missing again with Memory V.

Ah..so boost the lows a bit..if you miss that

[TheMaestro]

This is a, "it sounds kind of wimpy where it shouldn't" thing

That sums up Arturia though. I thought they were making improvements in that regard with the likes of MiniBrute and the recent Pigments update. Not to the level of the competition still, but this one feels like a step backwards again.

you can actually use the grains (of the granular mode) as a modulation source for the filters..

Yeah, a typical feature people only talk about on forums.

[TheMaestro]

And it really does sound dull.

[exmatproton]

This is a, "it sounds kind of wimpy where it shouldn't" thing

That sums up Arturia though. I thought they were making improvements in that regard with the likes of MiniBrute and the recent Pigments update. Not to the level of the competition still, but this one feels like a step backwards again.

you can actually use the grains (of the granular mode) as a trigger source for the envelopes..

Yeah, a typical feature people only talk about on forums.

i use it quite often..but i am sure you don't care about that..at all.

[Echoes in the Attic]

how are minibrute and pigments not on the level of the competition?? Especially Pigments has some tricks no other synth has...i mean,,you can actually use the grains (of the granular mode) as a modulation source for the filters..It is actually one of the most capable all round instruments in vst-land. Minibrute just sounds brute..like it should

Because we were specifically discussing the issue of Arturia lacking in the low end. Nothing to do with granular modes and other features or overall capabilities. So, I was only saying it in that sense; still lacking to the competition in terms of having weaker low end, despite hearing improvements in that department with MiniBrute & the last Pigments update, which I would have thought would have hopefully continued in to further new releases. But it seems to have gone missing again with Memory V.

Pigments is pretty decent sounding, as are their digital synths.

It's not so much missing low end as it is missing punch. And that might be as much about missing elements in the mids and highs, or weird envelopes. Arturia are more often dull than missing low end. Arturia is also sorely lacking when it comes to resonance response of many analog synths that should be able to scream, but are very dull compared to the competition like the 303 resonance, or the OB-XA, or the MS-20 (the last one seems due to dull oscillators). Like I said, I feel like the develop their plugins in comparison to vintage hardware that is going through some vintage, dark, highly compressed mixing board or something.

[Echoes in the Attic]

I like when he compares the bass boost of filter to just adding eq. Of course it's still useful to have that in the filter so you can actually change the cutoff and not have a bunch of extra bass when you don't need it.

[exmatproton]

I like when he compares the bass boost of filter to just adding eq. Of course it's still useful to have that in the filter so you can actually change the cutoff and not have a bunch of extra bass when you don't need it.

sure..though..i never missed that low end. Punch? yeah..have to agree with you. But i feel most (i mean most, not all) softsynths miss punch...however..i guess i am in such a niche (genre wise), i don't really need that anyway. And if i need that, i use a polyphonic transient control in Bitwig..

[Echoes in the Attic]

sure..though..i never missed that low end. Punch? yeah..have to agree with you. But i feel most (i mean most, not all) softsynths miss punch...however..i guess i am in such a niche (genre wise), i don't really need that anyway. And if i need that, i use a polyphonic transient control in Bitwig..

Softube, GForce, U-he, Roland get pretty darn close. Also Tal, UAD, Synapse, even Cherry sometimes. Everyone gets closer than Arturia in terms of the feel and weight of an analog synth.

I still use Arturia though. I just see many of their analog emulations as failed attempts that can still be useful. Like a 303 that tried to be a bass guitar, but ended up being something else.

[exmatproton]

sure..though..i never missed that low end. Punch? yeah..have to agree with you. But i feel most (i mean most, not all) softsynths miss punch...however..i guess i am in such a niche (genre wise), i don't really need that anyway. And if i need that, i use a polyphonic transient control in Bitwig..

Softube, GForce, U-he, Roland get pretty darn close. UAD, Synapse, even Cherry sometimes. Everyone gets closer than Arturia in terms of the feel and weight of an analog synth.

I still use Arturia though. I just see many of their analog emulations as failed attempts that can still be useful. Like a 303 that tried to be a bass guitar, but ended up being something else.

[vitocorleone123]

how are minibrute and pigments not on the level of the competition?? Especially Pigments has some tricks no other synth has...i mean,,you can actually use the grains (of the granular mode) as a modulation source for the filters..It is actually one of the most capable all round instruments in vst-land. Minibrute just sounds brute..like it should

Because we were specifically discussing the issue of Arturia lacking in the low end. Nothing to do with granular modes and other features or overall capabilities. So, I was only saying it in that sense; still lacking to the competition in terms of having weaker low end, despite hearing improvements in that department with MiniBrute & the last Pigments update, which I would have thought would have hopefully continued in to further new releases. But it seems to have gone missing again with Memory V.

Pigments is pretty decent sounding, as are their digital synths.

It's not so much missing low end as it is missing punch. And that might be as much about missing elements in the mids and highs, or weird envelopes. Arturia are more often dull than missing low end. Arturia is also sorely lacking when it comes to resonance response of many analog synths that should be able to scream, but are very dull compared to the competition like the 303 resonance, or the OB-XA, or the MS-20 (the last one seems due to dull oscillators). Like I said, I feel like the develop their plugins in comparison to vintage hardware that is going through some vintage, dark, highly compressed mixing board or something.

Pigments definitely lacks punch. Its analog style filters are average at best. Lots and lots of nice looking features - quantity over quality still even after all these versions. I sold my copy some time ago but tried demos of the 2 versions after and finally gave up on the synth ever sounding as good as the competition when it comes to those features that are important to me.

[exmatproton]

how are minibrute and pigments not on the level of the competition?? Especially Pigments has some tricks no other synth has...i mean,,you can actually use the grains (of the granular mode) as a modulation source for the filters..It is actually one of the most capable all round instruments in vst-land. Minibrute just sounds brute..like it should

Because we were specifically discussing the issue of Arturia lacking in the low end. Nothing to do with granular modes and other features or overall capabilities. So, I was only saying it in that sense; still lacking to the competition in terms of having weaker low end, despite hearing improvements in that department with MiniBrute & the last Pigments update, which I would have thought would have hopefully continued in to further new releases. But it seems to have gone missing again with Memory V.

Pigments is pretty decent sounding, as are their digital synths.

It's not so much missing low end as it is missing punch. And that might be as much about missing elements in the mids and highs, or weird envelopes. Arturia are more often dull than missing low end. Arturia is also sorely lacking when it comes to resonance response of many analog synths that should be able to scream, but are very dull compared to the competition like the 303 resonance, or the OB-XA, or the MS-20 (the last one seems due to dull oscillators). Like I said, I feel like the develop their plugins in comparison to vintage hardware that is going through some vintage, dark, highly compressed mixing board or something.

Pigments definitely lacks punch. Its analog style filters are average at best. Lots and lots of nice looking features - quantity over quality still even after all these versions. I sold my copy some time ago but tried demos of the 2 versions after and finally gave up on the synth ever sounding as good as the competition when it comes to those features that are important to me.

luckily there is enough in plugin-land to choose from I myself love Pigments. But, indeed, for different reasons. the "lots and lots of nice looking features" are actually features i use on a daily basis, so i am glad it exists

[Seafire Mk2]

So, can we all agree it's not an accurate emulation of a memorymoog?

[4_the masses]

So, can we all agree it's not an accurate emulation of a memorymoog?

Nothing is an exact emulation of anything, No VST can replace the real anything bro.