Schadenfreude or Sadness - The Slow Death of Artistic AI Tools

[pdxindy]

I think we’ll still see a lot of slop from casual users, but I also think that we might see some good stuff too, especially when it’s coming from people who understand film making.

Agreed... it needs people to know something about film making to get good results.

[ghettosynth]

Wikipedia has banned most uses of AI for articles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... age_models

Text generated by large language models (LLMs)[1] often violates several of Wikipedia's core content policies. For this reason, the use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited, save for the exceptions given below.

Editors are permitted to use LLMs to suggest basic copyedits to their own writing, and to incorporate some of them after human review, provided the LLM does not introduce content of its own. Caution is required, because LLMs can go beyond what you ask of them and change the meaning of the text such that it is not supported by the sources cited.

The use of LLMs to translate articles from another language's Wikipedia into the English Wikipedia must follow the guidance laid out at Wikipedia:LLM-assisted translation.

Some editors may have similar writing styles to LLMs. More evidence than just stylistic or linguistic signs is needed to justify sanctions, and it is best to consider the text's compliance with core content policies and recent edits by the editor in question.

[BONES]

I did hear that Sony (Columbia films) had developed a sort of "reverse AI lookup" that could pin point what the source leaning material was from any given image. I bet a team of lawyers was gearing up for a full on assault, and OpenAI decided to fold.

That seems unlikely to me because it's just not how it works, unless you are using a copyrighted image as the source for your video. If the technology ever was developed, I can guarantee it would find at least as many human made films that "borrowed" from other films as it would AI rip-offs, probably significantly more.

I’m actually thinking about using something similar to make a little music video. I had an idea that would be impossible for me to achieve without this technology. It will have to have a story board function, but character consistency isn’t critical. I think it will provide a result that is as good as I need it to be, but not what I’d expect from a professional production.

There's a Chinese one that looks OK and has a storyboard function. I've not used it but it looks pretty good - https://klingai.com/global/

I think we’ll still see a lot of slop from casual users, but I also think that we might see some good stuff too, especially when it’s coming from people who understand film making.

Have you seen any of this stuff? It's f**king incredible and would take a huge team of 3d artists months to do even half as well, where this guy seems to pump out a new one every few weeks.

[BONES]

Here's an AI generated short film. Try and find anything wrong with it. (I noticed three things.)

[pdxindy]

Here's an AI generated short film. Try and find anything wrong with it. (I noticed three things.)

There's a few cuts that are a bit jarring, a few places where the visual aesthetic and her vocal character doesn't stay consistent, and the fights are off, for example, the blood patterns don't match the sword strokes.

But like you said, it would take a team of 3d artists to do something comparable. The potential is incredible to do amazing work on budgets and timeframes that would be unthinkable with regular CGI.

[BONES]

Those are simple creative decisions, not issues with the production itself. Tarantino's editing is far more heavy-handed. I was wondering if the blood splatters on the paper screen were meant to make up some kanji pictograms or something. It seemed a deliberate choice to me.

I noticed that her skin in the back of the limo looked a bit mannequin-like, but was fine later on. Her arse was a bit bigger in one of the shots than in the rest and when she takes the flame-thrower off the wall, it's not actual brackets but solid masses that its embedded in. The bracket thing was the only one I thought was really off, the others I only noticed because I was looking for anomalies. Consistency from one shot to the next has been a problem with AI for a while now but you need to be really picky to notice it here.

[ghettosynth]

Her arse was a bit bigger in one of the shots than in the rest and when she takes the flame-thrower off the wall, it's not actual brackets but solid masses that its embedded in.

I did notice that, however, full disclosure, I know absolutely nothing about film production. I assume that she just took Ozempic for the team. Good for her! I'll watch it again though, I mean, for the research.

[BertKoor]

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[ghettosynth]

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Yes, this is becoming a problem. This is good IMNSHO. If you think that contradicts my position on this, you are misreading my position. You should not read this as "AI isn't helpful." The rest is left as an exercise for the reader.

[eassae]

Not in the artistic category but: https://futurism.com/artificial-intelli ... us-ai-tool and https://fortune.com/2026/05/19/pizza-hu ... y-drivers/

[ghettosynth]

Not in the artistic category but: https://futurism.com/artificial-intelli ... us-ai-tool and https://fortune.com/2026/05/19/pizza-hu ... y-drivers/

I like this from the first article "You also have to wonder if a human employee who couldn’t do the bare minimum of counting stuff would be shown anywhere near the same amount of leeway the AI got at the chain infamous for its union busting."

I think not. What is interesting is not that it might miscount, humans will to, it's that it likely has to be so bad that it caused enough problems for it not to be worthwhile. That said, that might not be the reason.

More detail here.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindu ... 026-01-27/

I had coffee out yesterday. It was great, but it was not Starbucks.

In September, Starbucks announced the rapid rollout of a tool called "automated counting" that is designed to improve Starbucks’ visibility into shortages at stores. The AI-powered app aimed to replace hand-counts of some products with automated ones that are faster and more accurate. Cafe workers hold a computer tablet up to shelves for syrups, milks and other beverage products, which the app scans with LIDAR and camera data.
But the app frequently miscounts and mislabels items, such as confusing similar milk types or missing them altogether, according to 10 cafe workers and managers. For example, a video uploaded by Starbucks shows the app failing to recognize a peppermint syrup bottle on the shelf as it counts adjacent bottles.
The app's provider, NomadGo, says on its website it is “99% accurate.”
“What NomadGo set out to do is modernize inventory counting to make it faster and less burdensome while providing timely, actionable data on product availability,” the company said in a statement.
Starbucks said adoption of the app had improved product availability in stores, but did not specify by how much.

So, it did improve, however, I'm sure that it cost money. The pullback may just be about a new CEO distancing himself from the last CEO's policies, or, perhaps this wasn't good enjoy to earn it's keep.

Distancing the firm from marginally functional AI might help sales in some circles. Not for me though, I go out of my way to buy from local coffee shops. I have absolutely no need to order coffee from an app.

[BONES]

I had coffee out yesterday. It was great, but it was not Starbucks.

Unsurprising, given that those two things are very definitely mutually exclusive. I don't know if I have ever tasted worse coffee than Starbucks.

[Zeisner]

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A process that does not feature boolean logic/math. Which makes it completely useless for most business tasks. Many companies will learn the hard way that correlation does not imply causation...

[ksandvik]

AI token prices are designed like drugs, first cheap and when you are hooked you are forced to pay for the ever increased pricing....