Mark Mothersbaugh on Classic Hardware vs Software Emulations

[TechHaus]

God, this thread is cursed. But since I watched three Mark Mothersbaugh videos because of it, I have been recommended dozens and dozens more. The guys loves to do media and videos.

So in my opinion now, this was a testimony, not a paid endorsement, and BONES scores another point.

[vurt]

Yes, and if you knew anything about Hooky,

he once called me a daft c word, after i tripped on the stairs in front of him.

[grandmasterbird]

I'm still hooked on the idea and the mental image of BONES and Ivybirds working out their differences in the sauna

[VOODOO U]

Again it's the venues responsibility and the venues I play in which are either churches, dedicated wedding venues, private property, or social halls, all have blanket licenses or don't need any at license at all.

Yeah well hopefully these godly organizations pay the fees so that the artists you rely on get paid. As far as those that don't need to pay the fee, lucky you right? You're a f**king freeloader.

Also beyond that just about everything I play at weddings is in the public domain anyway.

Well I hope for the sake of being ethical you stick to public domain material and leave Madonna alone. Thank you for being kind and generous to other artists works and sticking with public domain. Although I wouldn't mind hearing Burning Up by Madonna at a wedding.

And of course in the USA which is where I live and work there is a "Religious Service Exemption" in Section 110(3) of the U.S. Copyright Law. It allows places of worship to perform copyrighted music during in-person religious services without a license or paying royalties.

Gotta love these religious organizations. They ditch fees and taxes all for the grace of God. I'm in the wrong profession.

A wedding in a church performed by a an ordained minister, Rabbi, or priest under US Law is considered a religious service and is exempt
So any copyrighted work is just fine to perform anyway and is perfectly ethical to perform.

In the meantime, all those copyrighted works goes unpaid to the respective songwriters. Very ethical of you to engage.

Professional Wedding Venues, hotels, and reception halls also all have blanket licenses that cover public performance.

I'm happy to hear you're on top of it to make sure those blanket licenses actually get paid. After all, humans are honest and sincere.

Beyond that weddings and even parties in private settings on private property that are not ticketed and which are generally limited to family and friends are considered private events under US Copyright Law and under 17 U.S. Code § 106(4) are exempt from any licensing requirements for public performance of copyrighted works.

And the songwriters of the music you perform to keep a roof over your ass get zero. f**king freeloading is what it's called. Thank your government for the 'welfare checks". For lack of a better term of course (hugs and kisses).

We always ask about the venues licensing before we play there, because it's just the normal way to do business. If they don't have one or seem as clueless about it as you are that's a massive red flag that they also won't deal with us ethically and we stay away

Well I'm very happy to hear you are considering that the artists you rely on get paid. You're an ethical freeloader.

Licensing and copyright issues regarding live performance is something I know quite a bit about as it's all part of being a professional working musician. Rather than embarrassing yourself further if you have any questions feel free to ask.

No thanks. And you're not a professional.

[stoopicus]

And of course in the USA which is where I live and work there is a "Religious Service Exemption" in Section 110(3) of the U.S. Copyright Law. It allows places of worship to perform copyrighted music during in-person religious services without a license or paying royalties. A wedding in a church performed by a an ordained minister, Rabbi, or priest under US Law is considered a religious service and is exempt

What a dumb law. This law needs to die, why are churches special here? Screw that. We should make them pay taxes too.

[stoopicus]

I'm still hooked on the idea and the mental image of BONES and Ivybirds working out their differences in the sauna

100%, it's the novel innovation in this thread.

[BONES]

There are no differences, we're both f**king idiots. It's just fun to f**k with him and its my thread, so I'll do what I like with it.

[stoopicus]

There are no differences, we're both f**king idiots.

Yeah that's the best part! I freely admit that absolutely no one should take my advice. I'm more of a cautionary tale, really.

[IvyBirds]

Again it's the venues responsibility and the venues I play in which are either churches, dedicated wedding venues, private property, or social halls, all have blanket licenses or don't need any at license at all.

Yeah well hopefully these godly organizations pay the fees so that the artists you rely on get paid. As far as those that don't need to pay the fee, lucky you right? You're a f**king freeloader.

Also beyond that just about everything I play at weddings is in the public domain anyway.

Well I hope for the sake of being ethical you stick to public domain material and leave Madonna alone. Thank you for being kind and generous to other artists works and sticking with public domain. Although I wouldn't mind hearing Burning Up by Madonna at a wedding.

And of course in the USA which is where I live and work there is a "Religious Service Exemption" in Section 110(3) of the U.S. Copyright Law. It allows places of worship to perform copyrighted music during in-person religious services without a license or paying royalties.

Gotta love these religious organizations. They ditch fees and taxes all for the grace of God. I'm in the wrong profession.

A wedding in a church performed by a an ordained minister, Rabbi, or priest under US Law is considered a religious service and is exempt
So any copyrighted work is just fine to perform anyway and is perfectly ethical to perform.

In the meantime, all those copyrighted works goes unpaid to the respective songwriters. Very ethical of you to engage.

Professional Wedding Venues, hotels, and reception halls also all have blanket licenses that cover public performance.

I'm happy to hear you're on top of it to make sure those blanket licenses actually get paid. After all, humans are honest and sincere.

Beyond that weddings and even parties in private settings on private property that are not ticketed and which are generally limited to family and friends are considered private events under US Copyright Law and under 17 U.S. Code § 106(4) are exempt from any licensing requirements for public performance of copyrighted works.

And the songwriters of the music you perform to keep a roof over your ass get zero. f**king freeloading is what it's called. Thank your government for the 'welfare checks". For lack of a better term of course (hugs and kisses).

We always ask about the venues licensing before we play there, because it's just the normal way to do business. If they don't have one or seem as clueless about it as you are that's a massive red flag that they also won't deal with us ethically and we stay away

Well I'm very happy to hear you are considering that the artists you rely on get paid. You're an ethical freeloader.

Licensing and copyright issues regarding live performance is something I know quite a bit about as it's all part of being a professional working musician. Rather than embarrassing yourself further if you have any questions feel free to ask.

No thanks. And you're not a professional.

Wow your loss as you clearly know nothing about the law and have continued to humiliate yourself in the process. Again I feel sorry for the people you charge money to when you clearly know so little

I follow the law 100%. I am hired to play live music. My employers pay any and all licensing fees that are due under the law which is exactly what ASCAP and BMI agree to and is the system every artist uses to collect the rights they are due for public performance

What's amazing is you say you charge money to help bands with contracts yet seem so ignorant to how the industry actually works and how artists get paid

Again feel sorry for the people you are suckering if you think someone like me following the law and respecting performance and publishing rights is somehow unethical or freeloading

[grandmasterbird]

I'm still hooked on the idea and the mental image of BONES and Ivybirds working out their differences in the sauna

100%, it's the novel innovation in this thread.

The question is..... are we thinking a sauna full of steam or more of a dry heat? There's advantages to both I suppose

[concealed identity]

As the person who made the initial comment, I was thinking a gummy, swampy stank so thick it leaves a taste in your mouth. But you know, death of the author and all that.

[stoopicus]

As the person who made the initial comment, I was thinking a gummy, swampy stank so thick it leaves a taste in your mouth.

yeah baby yeah!

[grandmasterbird]

As the person who made the initial comment, I was thinking a gummy, swampy stank so thick it leaves a taste in your mouth. But you know, death of the author and all that.

I see. I can see where you are going with this. A thick, almost claustrophobic atmosphere of intense love and hate. Some mood lighting might further intensify things

[Bunny_boy]

Tangerine Dream were miming their live sets for a long time. When I saw them live in the 2000s the only people playing live were a percussionist and guitarist. Edgar briefly played some guitar but the rest of the time he and Jerome were miming.

Never thought Tangerine Dream and Milli Vanilli would have something in common

[grandmasterbird]

A bit of a wildcard, but perhaps a mirror ball?