Mark Mothersbaugh on Classic Hardware vs Software Emulations

[zerocrossing]

And when I go to a show to see live music I want to see live music being played by live musicians. I know many other people who feel the same way

I guess I just have a much more expansive and open minded view of what I find great in a show.

Using 'open-minded' as a euphemism for having zero standards for actual performance is hilarious. Nice try trying to dress up a glorified karaoke night as high art, though

Imagine thinking it's 'open-minded' to defend a band hitting spacebar and miming along to a WAV file. Keep telling yourself you're cultured while you pay triple digits to watch a synchronized iTunes playlist

I guess I just value my money enough to pay for actual live musicianship, but hey—if you like paying hundreds of dollars to watch someone press 'Play' on an iPod and karaoke their way through a set, I love that for you

However don't confuse having an ''open mind" with lowered expectations. It’s not that you're more cultured or open-minded, you’re just easier to please and have lower standards

Wow, I never really noticed you were this big of an ass hole. I guess you and BONES are the same, at least in this sense. Welcome to my ignore list.

[Seafire Mk2]

Imagine being in a dreary covers band that plays at weddings and thinking you are a high art musician

[machinesworking]

Wow, I never really noticed you were this big of an ass hole. I guess you and BONES are the same, at least in this sense. Welcome to my ignore list.

Hey at least Bones is excitable about plugins he likes and might occasionally point out one that flew under the radar. You know, the whole point of this forum?

[machinesworking]

Imagine being in a dreary covers band that plays at weddings and thinking you are a high art musician

I'm just gonna say it, boomers with a touch of the tism need to figure that shit out and stop being such utter oblivious train wrecks.

[machinesworking]

I totally use similar logic to justify purchasing things for my music, though I’m not a big drinker. Instead, I’ll think, “that’s what I’d spend on a nice sushi dinner, or movies.” Of course, I eat the nice dinners and see the movies as well. I don’t spend any money on stuff a lot of dudes my age do, though. I’ve got a friend who spends a lot of money on sports and sports memorabilia. They go to Vegas a few times a year and drop a lot on gambling. They’re doctors who work a lot, so they’re not broke, but I’m sure even with all my expensive gear and software, it’s a fraction of what they spend on what really amounts to as entertainment, which is how I view my spending as well, even though I was making a living off it for years.

With me it's mostly not wanting to A - go broke, and B - get too weird about spending money that I don't enjoy myself. I'm well underpaid in one of the most expensive cities in the USA, and I manage to get by. Too many people I know are 20-50K in debt to credit cards etc.

The main thing is will I use it or is it just appealing because it's cool? I have multiple string and orchestral libraries, and then I reach for UVI String Machines 2 because I prefer the sound. So I'm cut off from orchestral libraries until I start using them in my music. Opus is great, if I need a realistic sounding string run for something I have that covered etc.

All that said I just bought Obliviion Drums. I realize I can get good distorted drums with resampling etc, and I will still do that, but Heavyocity spent weeks sampling etc. so worth it.

[IvyBirds]

Imagine being in a dreary covers band that plays at weddings and thinking you are a high art musician

Imagine being so utterly miserable and insecure that you have to invent an entire fictional persona just to have something to complain about.
​I’ve never once called myself a 'high art musician,' nor do I think I am. I’m literally just a guy who loves the energy of playing live music and supporting other people who do the same. But hey, if pretending I’m some pretentious snob helps you cope with whatever sad, uninspired existence you've got going on, keep writing your little fan fiction

[IvyBirds]

Imagine being in a dreary covers band that plays at weddings and thinking you are a high art musician

I'm just gonna say it, boomers with a touch of the tism need to figure that shit out and stop being such utter oblivious train wrecks.

First of all, get your demographics right. I’m Generation X but a boomer

Second, the irony of you crying about other people being 'oblivious train wrecks' while confidently dropping some of the most elitist, painfully ignorant garbage on this forum is staggering. You’re sitting there thinking you’re handing out hard truths, but you just look like an arrogant, try-hard gatekeeper who needs to log off and figure their own miserable life out. Imagine being this pressed over someone else's existence and opinion.

Because what’s my actual sin here? Posting on a forum dedicated to musicians about how much I love seeing people play live music. You’re entirely manufacturing a problem that doesn’t exist

[IvyBirds]

Wow, I never really noticed you were this big of an ass hole. I guess you and BONES are the same, at least in this sense. Welcome to my ignore list.

Hey at least Bones is excitable about plugins he likes and might occasionally point out one that flew under the radar. You know, the whole point of this forum?

The absolute, staggering hypocrisy of your post is hilarious. You’re whining about the 'whole point of this forum' being to talk about plugins that fly under the radar, yet here you are, wasting your breath crying about me instead of actually talking about plugins.

Furthermore, you have to be completely blind or willfully lying to claim I don't do exactly that. I talk about gear and plugins,, including ones that fly under the radar all the time—literally right here in this thread. But I guess it’s easier for you to fabricate a completely false narrative than it is to actually read and be honest

[Seafire Mk2]

​I’ve never once called myself a 'high art musician,' nor do I think I am.

Glad that's cleared up. Now we know we can ignore your constant drivel.

[legendCNCD]

Bones and Ivy have WAY more in common than they have differences.

Really they should just get a room

I think we're all in it.

eww

Also, it's a sauna

And as a Finnish guy, I'm naked and drunk before the Sauna is even warm!

[stoopicus]

Bones and Ivy have WAY more in common than they have differences.

Really they should just get a room

I think we're all in it.

eww

Also, it's a sauna

And as a Finnish guy, I'm naked and drunk before the Sauna is even warm!

Good. You can be our distraction while the rest of us run.

[dwringer]

Well, I can see why some people are afraid to link their personal music to their KVR forum identity

[kejkz]

Software is too soft, hardware is too hard, that's why you have to put some jelly knob lard.

[IvyBirds]

Well, I can see why some people are afraid to link their personal music to their KVR forum identity

Awesome, you haven't even linked a single track to your own profile, so why are you acting like some misunderstood musical genius hiding in the shadows?
Besides, newsflash: KVR isn't your personal SoundCloud or some amateur talent show where people go to get patted on the back for their mediocre bedroom beats. It’s a forum for discussing music production tools—plugins, virtual instruments, and software. Nobody is lurking here desperate to judge your "personal music" because nobody cares.

[dwringer]

Awesome, you haven't even linked a single track to your own profile, so why are you acting like some misunderstood musical genius hiding in the shadows?
Besides, newsflash: KVR isn't your personal SoundCloud or some amateur talent show where people go to get patted on the back for their mediocre bedroom beats. It’s a forum for discussing music production tools—plugins, virtual instruments, and software. Nobody is lurking here desperate to judge your "personal music" because nobody cares.

Lol it's still going.

I'm sure you can do better than that. Did you just do a 180 on your position that this is a musicians' forum, now you're taking the side of the people who were arguing against you? Also you don't have to look far to find my own music on here, actually, but I guess that'd require you to be engaging with this forum in good faith.