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kernaudioio · Post by **kernaudioio** » Tue Mar 03, 2026 4:54 pm

the vibe maintenance point is the one that'll bite people. shipping something is the easy part when you've got AI doing heavy lifting. what happens six months later when a DAW update breaks the plugin and you're staring at 3000 lines of code you didn't write and don't fully understand?

been building plugins the slow way for years and honestly the thing AI hasn't changed is needing to understand WHY something sounds the way it does. the DSP decisions are still yours to make. AI can write a biquad filter implementation in seconds but it can't tell you where to put it in the signal chain or what the psychoacoustic tradeoff is. that part still takes time.

that said, there's probably a wave of genuinely good plugins coming from people who had the ears and the ideas but not the C++ background. and a much larger wave of noise. the market will sort it eventually.

El°HYM · Post by **El°HYM** » Sun Mar 08, 2026 11:11 am

kernaudioio wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2026 4:54 pm that said, there's probably a wave of genuinely good plugins coming from people who had the ears and the ideas but not the C++ background. and a much larger wave of noise. the market will sort it eventually.

This is very similar to what I think. There is also an open door though and more than easy way to add malicious stuff into such code we should all be aware of. This has been a rare occasion in the past, yet might now become the new standard to easily intrude the musicians most precious space.

gullfo · Post by **gullfo** » Sun Mar 08, 2026 3:06 pm

Constructed Identity wrote: Thu Jan 29, 2026 9:36 pm Pretty soon AI bots will be coding AI plugins to make AI music to stream on Spotify so that cryptocurrency can change hands so that ...

and the AI listening bots will listen and rate the music as the best ever! and use the AI social media bots to echo the good news across the universe... it will be a brave new world.

buchertaudio · Post by **buchertaudio** » Fri Mar 13, 2026 6:21 pm

This is a real concern. At Buchert Audio, every DSP decision goes through deliberate research and listening tests before it becomes a parameter. We don't use AI to generate our processing code. Each algorithm is hand-written with a specific perceptual goal. I think the industry will naturally separate into two tiers: tools built with intention and tools built with prompts. Users can usually hear the difference within 30 seconds.

El°HYM · Post by **El°HYM** » Sat Mar 21, 2026 5:21 pm

Me was wrong,
it aint a flood,
it aint a plane,
it aint superman,
it aint another deluge.

It is an Apocalypse now.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Sat Mar 21, 2026 6:46 pm

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pekbro · Post by **pekbro** » Sat Mar 21, 2026 6:56 pm

Don't support them is all, don't even use their free stuff. Generally it's pretty easy to figure out sooner or later who they are, because they don't really know what they are doing. IMO, they are being deceptive if not upfront about it as well and therefore underhanded.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Sat Mar 21, 2026 8:52 pm

Stay with Waves, Eventide and Native Instruments and you're save.

El°HYM · Post by **El°HYM** » Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:47 am

El°HYM wrote: Mon Aug 11, 1975 5:09 am
Vibe coding is coding where you fully trust AI and don't even read the code and just follow the vibes. The term was coined by Andrej Karpathy, a leading AI researcher. It speeds up development, but there are still concerns about code quality, security, and long-term maintainability. Lovable is solving these challenges by making AI-generated code more reliable, secure, and production-ready. https://lovable.dev/blog/what-is-vibe-coding
Not necessarily a bad thing, as a huge potential of new creators are now entering the scene. Basically a technical skilled producer with some golden ears can now prompt out his ideas without or lets say very little coding experience. Which of course might cause a vast amount of junk just flooding the market with more nonsense in the next years. In the end all of this will still need some proper debugging and updates, which might be the stumbling block for some.

Since I already predicted the flood coming in 1984 while average Joe still smiling at Noah. As time went by and just to be fair, me doesnt bother if vibe coded or not, as I cannot really tell how much was involved, how the brand new dev will continue supporting his tool. Also still being cautious about the true intention and maybe some slipped in code. In the end if its somehow useful, sounds fine... no prob. Since benefiting from plugin overflow and being an active member of the anti - gas - movement... happiness is just around the corner.

rectifried · Post by **rectifried** » Sat Jun 20, 2026 5:06 pm

The bottom line for any of us that have done this longer than a decade is updates,... a plug-in as important as lexicon once it was bought by Harmon for years and then stopped working once Apple Silicon came out... They finally let the company called flux code it for modern computers and it's back.
But the point is there many companies that don't keep up and quiet quietly just abandoned this stuff.
Just remember whatever plug-in you think you need demo it... and then try to beat it with what you already have... or take that same amount of time and actually make music.

Try reinstalling all your plug-ins and you'll understand. It's easier to stick with a few companies that have a fairly easy path ... also if you're doing this professionally, you tend to understand who actually knows what they're doing, not only in their output, but in their presence on the Internet.

Valhalla is a perfect example. Sean Costello has a wealth of understanding of reverb and his output.... liquid sonic... of course softube waves Eventide.. any plugin older than 2-five years is definitely not vibe coded

Anyone else noticed the increase of Vibe coded plugins flooding the market?