Why Linux is Becoming Impossible for Audio Developers to Ignore
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7116 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Here are some quick stats I gathered, for the uninitiated:
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-sh ... /worldwide
https://commandlinux.com/statistics/lin ... ket-share/
https://fosspost.org/linux-market-share-statistics/
https://commandlinux.com/statistics/lin ... ket-share/
https://sqmagazine.co.uk/linux-statistics/
https://www.quantumrun.com/consulting/linux-statistics/
https://xtendedview.com/linux-statistics/
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-sh ... /worldwide
https://commandlinux.com/statistics/lin ... ket-share/
https://fosspost.org/linux-market-share-statistics/
https://commandlinux.com/statistics/lin ... ket-share/
https://sqmagazine.co.uk/linux-statistics/
https://www.quantumrun.com/consulting/linux-statistics/
https://xtendedview.com/linux-statistics/
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(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7116 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
You've got the ability to search just like the rest of us. I found some quick stats. I'm not a statistician, but the stats seem easy enough. Look at my post above.EyeCloud wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 5:53 pm What is the actual growth rate of Linux over time, and are there reliable forecasts of growth?
I’m sure the data points things in the right direction, but I’m wondering what the Linux population actually represents.
I was at college in the mid 90s, and as with many academic institutions, a lot of our computers were nix machines. I also know people in academia who run a lot of nix machines for desktop use.
Anecdotally, I don’t think I know anyone in a pretty broad circle of friends who use nix for their main desktop/laptop machine.
For the average user in a residential situation I think nix use is likely to be niche rather than growing. There are just too many instances of it requiring a lot of configuration or a learning curse that most people don’t want to climb.
Maybe it would be insightful to see what percentage of audio developers currently develop for Linux? If desktop use is growing so that it can’t be ignored, I would expect to see a pretty high percentage already developing for Linux.
Just my 2c.
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- KVRAF
- 16748 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Rapid growth and change in growth are not the same thing. That said, Linux is almost certainly being under-counted because of the association with privacy. As someone who studied stats, you know that you cannot just dismiss data without trying to understand if there is systematic reasons for the data. That you don't have data doesn't mean that the data that you do have reflects the truth. That's fine for a science paper, appropriately hedged, but this is not that. The likelihood that "unknown" is Linux is far greater than it's any mainstream OS. That is, it may very well not be Linux, but, it's not a coin flip that it's any of the other mainstream OS's. You can infer this from the developer data. Technical users gravitate towards Linux at least in some context.EyeCloud wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 6:25 pm
Some brief research doesn’t uncover any kind of rapid growth in usage, but I do see some poor statistical analysis supporting numbers stated in articles. For example, I see more than one article basing the growth on downloads, or on the percentage of machines with a particular operating system used to download a distro, or counting operating systems that are identified as “unknown” as Linux. Correlations like this do not translate to solid statistical data.
But ultimately my question is simply to determine what supports the stated growth of Linux to the current status of it being no longer capable of being ignored. I’m asking because I don’t see the broad uptake as a platform for audio use.
Downloads indicate some increase in interest, but it's a not something valid to count, sold licenses of Windows arn't either. I have more than a few laptops and 1L PCs that came with windows and never once saw a Windows login.
There are several factors that are contributing to the switch. Microsoft's insistence on AI in everything, particularly in the sense that's tied to their focus on locking you in to their cloud, the gaming market, developers, and European digital sovereignty. Alone, none of these are smoking guns. I'm experienced using Linux and it has been my desktop before, but I did make more of a commitment this year to switching over, even for audio.
To some extent though, I'm not sure that it does support audio devs supporting Linux from a purely financial POV. For me, the move to Linux just meant that it was easier to reduce my plugin footprint.
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- KVRist
- 63 posts since 24 May, 2026
None of what you have said represents actual data though. Phrases like “almost certainly” should not follow assumptions without validated cause and effect.ghettosynth wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 9:05 pmRapid growth and change in growth are not the same thing. That said, Linux is almost certainly being under-counted because of the association with privacy. As someone who studied stats, you know that you cannot just dismiss data without trying to understand if there is systematic reasons for the data. That you don't have data doesn't mean that the data that you do have reflects the truth. That's fine for a science paper, appropriately hedged, but this is not that. The likelihood that "unknown" is Linux is far greater than it's any mainstream OS. That is, it may very well not be Linux, but, it's not a coin flip that it's any of the other mainstream OS's. You can infer this from the developer data. Technical users gravitate towards Linux at least in some context.EyeCloud wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 6:25 pm
Some brief research doesn’t uncover any kind of rapid growth in usage, but I do see some poor statistical analysis supporting numbers stated in articles. For example, I see more than one article basing the growth on downloads, or on the percentage of machines with a particular operating system used to download a distro, or counting operating systems that are identified as “unknown” as Linux. Correlations like this do not translate to solid statistical data.
But ultimately my question is simply to determine what supports the stated growth of Linux to the current status of it being no longer capable of being ignored. I’m asking because I don’t see the broad uptake as a platform for audio use.
Downloads indicate some increase in interest, but it's a not something valid to count, sold licenses of Windows arn't either. I have more than a few laptops and 1L PCs that came with windows and never once saw a Windows login.
There are several factors that are contributing to the switch. Microsoft's insistence on AI in everything, particularly in the sense that's tied to their focus on locking you in to their cloud, the gaming market, developers, and European digital sovereignty. Alone, none of these are smoking guns. I'm experienced using Linux and it has been my desktop before, but I did make more of a commitment this year to switching over, even for audio.
To some extent though, I'm not sure that it does support audio devs supporting Linux from a purely financial POV. For me, the move to Linux just meant that it was easier to reduce my plugin footprint.
If we don’t have data valid assertions should be qualified, and you will commonly see phrases like “the data possibility indicates”, or something similar.
Based on what has been presented in this thread I see a case for research, but there doesn’t seem to be any particular methodology followed by online opinions.
I’m just saying that all I can see here is a theorized state, but I’m not sure it’s supported by any concrete data. Certainly room to research, but too soon to publish results.
- KVRian
- 1052 posts since 21 Feb, 2015
Maybe we can agree on this, folks...
There really are too many Linux variations and distros. I mean, I understand the need for variety, I dig it myself, but it seems to be hindering Linux in general. Prolly not just audio!
Perhaps some focus could help here, to make it easier and frankly more profitable , for developers to get with Linux.
There really are too many Linux variations and distros. I mean, I understand the need for variety, I dig it myself, but it seems to be hindering Linux in general. Prolly not just audio!
Perhaps some focus could help here, to make it easier and frankly more profitable , for developers to get with Linux.
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- KVRian
- 1431 posts since 7 Oct, 2023 from Tokyo
Sure, I'm game. The sites you posted mostly quoted StatCounter, so here you go:audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 8:36 pm You've got the ability to search just like the rest of us. I found some quick stats. I'm not a statistician, but the stats seem easy enough. Look at my post above.
It's sitting stable at 3-4% and has been for some time.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7116 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
I'm aware of that. I too wondered what was up. It turns out, the article was published in March, and was probably researched in February. The article posted what the number was at the time of writing. But that's not the key. The key is that they are measuring established year over year growth, which they say is still growing, and that the acceleration rate that the amount is growing is speeding up. Or, to quote the article: "The growth is accelerating: it took a full decade to go from 1% to 2%, another 2.2 years to reach 3%, and only 0.7 years to go from 3% to 4%." What we need to do, is see what the numbers are this time next year.stoopicus wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 10:40 pmSure, I'm game. The sites you posted mostly quoted StatCounter, so here you go:audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 8:36 pm You've got the ability to search just like the rest of us. I found some quick stats. I'm not a statistician, but the stats seem easy enough. Look at my post above.
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It's sitting stable at 3-4% and has been for some time.
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(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRian
- 1431 posts since 7 Oct, 2023 from Tokyo
Well, not exactly. Another obvious point is that when the number is so small, it's heavily susceptible to statistical noise. So the fact that it briefly hit 4.7 but is actually fluctuating around 3-4 is not surprising at all.
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- KVRAF
- 16748 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
stoopicus wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 10:40 pmSure, I'm game. The sites you posted mostly quoted StatCounter, so here you go:audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 8:36 pm You've got the ability to search just like the rest of us. I found some quick stats. I'm not a statistician, but the stats seem easy enough. Look at my post above.
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It's sitting stable at 3-4% and has been for some time.
Statscounter doesn't provide research on their "unknown" string but this is not news and there is plenty of reason to defend the prior.1. StatCounter Global Stats (General Web Traffic)
Why it's reliable: StatCounter derives its statistics from a massive dataset, tracking over 15 billion page hits per month across 3 million websites.
It provides a highly robust indicator of general web-browsing trends globally.
The statistical blind spot: It measures page hits based on user-agent strings, not a census of installed physical devices.
Linux users are known to be highly privacy-conscious, frequently utilizing ad blockers or spoofing their user-agent strings to masquerade as Windows or Mac users. This behavior likely undercounts Linux's true market share and contributes to a massive "Unknown" operating system category, which reached 18.75% globally in May 2026.
Linux users are way overrepresented in the privacy-tool crowd. This includes Tor, hardened Firefox, UA spoofers, the works. All of that strips or randomizes the OS token, which dumps you into "unknown." On top of that, plenty of Linux users deliberately spoof their UA just to stop sites from breaking, and if the spoof is weird enough it lands in unknown rather than Linux.
Then there's the diversity problem. Windows and macOS have a handful of version strings parsers know cold. Linux has a zillion distros, kernels, and desktop environments, plus rolling releases thus there are many more chances to miss whatever signature database the tracker is using. Same goes for the long tail of niche browsers (qutebrowser, LibreWolf, Pale Moon, random Chromium forks) that are disproportionately a Linux thing.
A bunch of headless and automation traffic includinhg Selenium, Playwright, curl, scrapers runs on Linux servers and sends minimal UAs. You can argue whether that should count as "Linux desktop," but it's definitely bulking up the unidentifiable pile. Throw in BSD and other Unix-likes that get lumped in culturally, and the bucket gets bigger still. Ask yourself, do you use curl? I use it EVERY SINGLE DAY. Is that you? If it is, you're probably using it in WSL or on a Mac.
Client Hints make it worse: Chromium on Linux only sends Sec-CH-UA-Platform: "Linux" when the site actually asks, and lots of sites don't. Meanwhile Windows and macOS sessions get rescued by all kinds of fallback heuristics (default fonts, screen metrics) that analytics quietly lean on.
And the surveys themselves are biased. StatCounter and friends count pageviews on mainstream consumer sites, where Linux users are far more likely than average to be running the kind of tooling that breaks identification.
None of this means unknown is mostly Linux desktop uses. Bots are probably the single biggest chunk, but it's pretty hard to argue the bucket isn't disproportionately Linux relative to whatever the "identified" share says when you think about if from the POV of desktop usage.
Lansweeper did an analysis. The data collection methods behind these figures are comprehensive. Lansweeper combines agentless and agent-based scanning, along with active network probing and passive traffic monitoring, to detect and profile systems accurately across networks.
https://undercodenews.com/linux-desktop ... cted-rise/
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- KVRian
- 1431 posts since 7 Oct, 2023 from Tokyo
Well if we are going to lean in to the "Unknown" then maybe linux users can use The Force to mind trick some developer adoption. I'm not the one that brought up StatCounter but if it is going to be used as the data source (like those quoted articles above did) then it is fair game to go take a look at.
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- KVRian
- 1431 posts since 7 Oct, 2023 from Tokyo
Also don't forget that there are other negligible niche OS down there contributing to that bucket as well, plus (as you note) bots.
Nothing wrong with niche OS - I am actually a huge fan of NetBSD and I have used linux as my sole desktop a few times in the past, including a two year stint on gentoo.
But arguing that you are an unignorable market force is pretty funny and not the way you will gain developers.
Nothing wrong with niche OS - I am actually a huge fan of NetBSD and I have used linux as my sole desktop a few times in the past, including a two year stint on gentoo.
But arguing that you are an unignorable market force is pretty funny and not the way you will gain developers.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7116 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
I'm not a statistician, so I'll trust what you say. However, one MUST admit that there is a continued growth over time:stoopicus wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:02 pm Well, not exactly. Another obvious point is that when the number is so small, it's heavily susceptible to statistical noise. So the fact that it briefly hit 4.7 but is actually fluctuating around 3-4 is not surprising at all.
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(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRian
- 1431 posts since 7 Oct, 2023 from Tokyo
Probably yep. But it's still not a significant desktop market, which is my whole point in this thread. There's lots of ways for linux to attract developers, but claiming unignorable market share is not one of them.
Sell it instead on the merits of the development environment, or even just that it sucks less than Windows for some things. As a software developer I love linux for day to day development - but have also been doing development on unix based operating systems for decades. You need to sell the merits because to many developers they are not obvious at all.
Sell it instead on the merits of the development environment, or even just that it sucks less than Windows for some things. As a software developer I love linux for day to day development - but have also been doing development on unix based operating systems for decades. You need to sell the merits because to many developers they are not obvious at all.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7116 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
I'm not against using all of the information we can find. The better I can learn how to accurately represent things, the better for everyone. I can't seem to come up with the numbers that the article did, but I still see steady growth. The thing that bothers me, is that Statcounter divides things up so much for Linux, instead of grouping things like they do with the other OSes. For example, ChromeOS is Linux--a commercial distro, with its own desktop environment, but it's still a valid desktop Linux distro. I can't say why they intentionally skew the numbers by separating it from the other Linux distros, but they do. I'd also be willing to bet that more of the "unknown" OSes are Linux than people's Timex Sinclair 1000s, Ataris, or Apple IIs. I would think it reasonable that there might be some outliers, like a BSD variant or something occasionally, but I still think the majority of those unknowns are probably Linux. Linux has so many more browsers which are built with so many additional browser engines that other operating systems don't have. All of those numbers would not be able to be accounted for, since Statcounter doesn't track all browsers.stoopicus wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:13 pm Well if we are going to lean in to the "Unknown" then maybe linux users can use The Force to mind trick some developer adoption. I'm not the one that brought up StatCounter but if it is going to be used as the data source (like those quoted articles above did) then it is fair game to go take a look at.
I can't prove it, but my gut tells me that the number for Linux is much, much higher.
EDIT: I wonder if the article is grouping ChromeOS and the rest of the Linux distros together (like it should be):
Linux-derived desktop platforms (Linux plus Chrome OS, which is itself Linux-kernel-based) reach roughly 4.5% of worldwide desktop share when both StatCounter line items are summed.
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(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7116 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
I'll go with that. The title of the thread was my doing, so I'll take full responsibility. However, did you notice that MacOS adoption has been dropping over the last several years? It's currently less than 9% total. Windows has been dropping adoption like crazy too. So, for the last several years, while Windows and MacOS, has been dropping in adoption, Linux has been growing in adoption. You don't find that an interesting trend?stoopicus wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:36 pm Probably yep. But it's still not a significant desktop market, which is my whole point in this thread. There's lots of ways for linux to attract developers, but claiming unignorable market share is not one of them.
Sell it instead on the merits of the development environment, or even just that it sucks less than Windows for some things. As a software developer I love linux for day to day development - but have also been doing development on unix based operating systems for decades. You need to sell the merits because to many developers they are not obvious at all.
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Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
