What do you think: Which DAW will the safest to resist all of this AI nonsense creeping slowly in?
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- KVRian
- 546 posts since 18 May, 2020
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- KVRian
- 798 posts since 2 Nov, 2014
As long as they do not remove any core functionality I do not see it as a huge problem and just ignore that it is there, except getting frustrated that the development is spent on AI instead of improving the core app. Like Logic Pro for the past few years 
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- KVRAF
- 5196 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Earth
Great option or 2 Grooveboxes or a Workstation Keyboard + a few synths to fill up the 16 Tracks and a simple open source wave editor to record it intoTechHaus wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 12:32 am Tape machine. Portastudio. Adat. One of those Roland VS Studio things that recorded to 100mb zip disks.
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- KVRAF
- 2341 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
What are the AI music generation features in Live?ksandvik wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 5:12 pm Maybe Reaper as could could customize and strip it to any level. But for me it's mostly ignoring any AI-music generation features in LogicProX and Ableton Live, and hopefully with less and less people using those then there's less incentives to extend those features.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35453 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
There arent any. Ironically, he may have hallucinated them.legendCNCD wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 11:34 amWhat are the AI music generation features in Live?ksandvik wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 5:12 pm Maybe Reaper as could could customize and strip it to any level. But for me it's mostly ignoring any AI-music generation features in LogicProX and Ableton Live, and hopefully with less and less people using those then there's less incentives to extend those features.
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- KVRian
- 841 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Oregon, USA
Live, not yet, but with the extension in forthcoming version, expect a plethora of LLM/Claude/ChatGPT extensions from developers, ack. At least you don't need to install them.
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- KVRian
- 841 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Oregon, USA
BTW there's already a MaxForLive Claude extension, ack. Fortunately it's slow and clumsy....
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- KVRAF
- 18023 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
I think they’ll all fall for it eventually. I’m not really bothered, as long as we still get the choice not to use those features.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35453 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Yeah, Im expecting that. Same as there are already M4L Devices, and native plugins. Not quite the same thing, tho.ksandvik wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 12:36 pm Live, not yet, but with the extension in forthcoming version, expect a plethora of LLM/Claude/ChatGPT extensions from developers, ack. At least you don't need to install them.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRian
- 646 posts since 8 Dec, 2025
Unfortunately I didn't buy lots of hardware to be used with older operating systems and drivers so this is not an option for me. And used hardware is not an option either. This once killed years of my work, thanks to a mainboard that came infected with malware. At some point I will simply have to stop making music.D-Fusion wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 7:24 pm Yes it will if you install a Operating system version from before the online purge happens.
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- KVRAF
- 7169 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
In that case, then Linux is your best bet as far as the OSes go.osiris wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2026 8:10 pm You need to be thinking in terms of OS. I think up to Windows 9 might be safe.
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(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRAF
- 7169 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Yeah, I'd say Reaper or Ardour are your best bets for now. The developer of Ardour has already stated that they have no intention of putting anything AI into their system.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRAF
- 18459 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
And Studio Vision Pro.
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