Partials & Discreprancies the new Kid of additive synths
- KVRist
- 39 posts since 7 May, 2026
CPU-wise, this is a heavy synth. I don't have exact numbers, but like Curves & Membranes, the oscillator is based on realtime math. At maximum a bit over 1000 partials are calculated at audio-rate. The UI is also having some rather heavy parts, which is why it sometimes can make a difference to close the UI if you are not actively editing the synth.
Regarding refunds, according to Stripe (my payment provider) it can take 5-10 business days. I've had between 5 and 10 so far across the full product range, non has taken that much time - and the main cause has been that CPU load followed by people buying the products for PC when they were still mac only.
I don't ask for a reason, but so far everyone asking has been given one.
There might be other companies doing similar stuff, and not making it easy. That is on them. I can't afford to ruin my reputation by being a bitch (which is of course in everyone's own right to think I am anyway). I keep all payments in Stripe for 30 days to be able to do any refunds quick. (Actually, all payment money are still in Stripe, as I haven't ordered my first payout to my company account).
Anyway. For the week that is just getting started I plan on making 2 more tutorial style videos. One about the discrepancies, and the other about using CC#4/Foot-control for sweeping or stepping the oscillator slots. If anyone has something else I should explain in more depth, please let me know.
All the Best,
Rasmus
Regarding refunds, according to Stripe (my payment provider) it can take 5-10 business days. I've had between 5 and 10 so far across the full product range, non has taken that much time - and the main cause has been that CPU load followed by people buying the products for PC when they were still mac only.
I don't ask for a reason, but so far everyone asking has been given one.
There might be other companies doing similar stuff, and not making it easy. That is on them. I can't afford to ruin my reputation by being a bitch (which is of course in everyone's own right to think I am anyway). I keep all payments in Stripe for 30 days to be able to do any refunds quick. (Actually, all payment money are still in Stripe, as I haven't ordered my first payout to my company account).
Anyway. For the week that is just getting started I plan on making 2 more tutorial style videos. One about the discrepancies, and the other about using CC#4/Foot-control for sweeping or stepping the oscillator slots. If anyone has something else I should explain in more depth, please let me know.
All the Best,
Rasmus
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- KVRAF
- 8557 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
Most times it's not bad on my Core i5, pretty usable for me honestly. Of course I am not really after the complex evolving soundscape type settings most of the time. It's perfectly capable of overwhelming my cpu.
- KVRAF
- 23004 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Okay, I have a couple of questions. I went to Youtube, saw the video you made, listened to it and decided to take a shot.
So now my questions.
1. Does this have a patch browser? It appears not and the only way to select patches is to scroll through or use my DAW generic browser that only lists them as program 1, program 2, etc. Is this a bug or is this the way it was designed?
2. Is there an init function so I can start with a clean patch to work.
I love the way this sounds but the 2 above items are driving me crazy. These 2 things make this synth very unpleasant to work with because of how long it takes to find a patch.
And this is why I usually insist on demos.
Lesson learned.
So now my questions.
1. Does this have a patch browser? It appears not and the only way to select patches is to scroll through or use my DAW generic browser that only lists them as program 1, program 2, etc. Is this a bug or is this the way it was designed?
2. Is there an init function so I can start with a clean patch to work.
I love the way this sounds but the 2 above items are driving me crazy. These 2 things make this synth very unpleasant to work with because of how long it takes to find a patch.
And this is why I usually insist on demos.
Lesson learned.
- KVRist
- 39 posts since 7 May, 2026
1. It does not have a patch browser. It is something I will look into the coming weeks. Feel free to drop me a line on pm or email and include the email you've used for purchase, if you want me to issue a refund.
2. The ------ patch is initial. If you are on any patch, cmd/ctrl click on the left arrow takes you straight to that init patch. (using shift on the arrows takes you 10 steps at once).
As mentioned, if you are not willing to wait for a patch browser, I will gladly refund you.
All the Best,
Rasmus
2. The ------ patch is initial. If you are on any patch, cmd/ctrl click on the left arrow takes you straight to that init patch. (using shift on the arrows takes you 10 steps at once).
As mentioned, if you are not willing to wait for a patch browser, I will gladly refund you.
All the Best,
Rasmus
Product Janitor and Founder - Unusable Engineering - www.unusable.net
- KVRAF
- 23004 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
That's okay. I love the way this thing sounds. You've made one heck of an interesting synth and I would never dream of refunding it. I'll suffer through the initial growing pains as far as patch handling. At least now I can make my own patches.unusable wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 9:57 am 1. It does not have a patch browser. It is something I will look into the coming weeks. Feel free to drop me a line on pm or email and include the email you've used for purchase, if you want me to issue a refund.
2. The ------ patch is initial. If you are on any patch, cmd/ctrl click on the left arrow takes you straight to that init patch. (using shift on the arrows takes you 10 steps at once).
As mentioned, if you are not willing to wait for a patch browser, I will gladly refund you.
All the Best,
Rasmus
- KVRAF
- 23004 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Okay, created a patch. Left clicked on save and nothing happens. So I tried right clicking. I see save as. So I choose that. My windows explorer comes up and it says it's saving as a web page. Is that right? Plus, there doesn't seem to be a load patch option. So after I save it, how do I recall it later on?
Sorry for these basic questions but this thing has be befuddled.
Sorry for these basic questions but this thing has be befuddled.
- KVRist
- 39 posts since 7 May, 2026
Click randomize name, a name appears, click it again if you want another. Press save, and it saves. You can't manually input a name, atm. But you can change names afterwards.wagtunes wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 10:34 am Okay, created a patch. Left clicked on save and nothing happens. So I tried right clicking. I see save as. So I choose that. My windows explorer comes up and it says it's saving as a web page. Is that right? Plus, there doesn't seem to be a load patch option. So after I save it, how do I recall it later on?
Sorry for these basic questions but this thing has be befuddled.
The files are written to a folder (on windows in documents IIRC, on mac in application support). If you change file name, the patch is renamed.
Edit - I tried to link to the video, but having a set start point don't work on kvr.
It is at 13:10:
It was intentionally made as minimal as possible when I made it for Curves & Membranes. As this is a more complex synth, it would likely make sense to improve it.
The reason save as webpage comes up, is because the interface layer is WebView. So the UI is basically a node/react website running locally.
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- KVRer
- 21 posts since 6 Nov, 2023
A refund offering is all good if not suitable but if the exchange rate has changed inbetween purchase and refund then there is the risk of being refunded less than the original outlay.
- KVRist
- 39 posts since 7 May, 2026
If that is the case, please let me know, and I can likely work something out.Flogs wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 11:19 am A refund offering is all good if not suitable but if the exchange rate has changed inbetween purchase and refund then there is the risk of being refunded less than the original outlay.
All the Best,
Rasmus
Product Janitor and Founder - Unusable Engineering - www.unusable.net
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- KVRist
- 107 posts since 18 May, 2011
Wouldn't a native UI (not using web tech) be more efficient?unusable wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 10:51 am The reason save as webpage comes up, is because the interface layer is WebView. So the UI is basically a node/react website running locally.
- KVRAF
- 8557 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
About that, I notice the plugins keep a large web cache, can you set those up to auto-delete?
554.9 mb (combined) webcache from these plugins atm. Looks like win deletes them after a while, but some of it has been there some time, seems to be duplicate data and therefore unnecessary anyway?
tbh I'm not fond of webview, this is one reason for that. My root drive is only 256 gb.
Honestly, I'd like to understand why so many developers are using it. Is it just to for the benefit of the UI? Some like to push updates with it as well.
Anyway, for me it's a constant battle to save and reclaim space, pc makers stupidly believe 256 gb is perfectly fine for windoze, when in fact it's not and never was.
554.9 mb (combined) webcache from these plugins atm. Looks like win deletes them after a while, but some of it has been there some time, seems to be duplicate data and therefore unnecessary anyway?
tbh I'm not fond of webview, this is one reason for that. My root drive is only 256 gb.
Honestly, I'd like to understand why so many developers are using it. Is it just to for the benefit of the UI? Some like to push updates with it as well.
Anyway, for me it's a constant battle to save and reclaim space, pc makers stupidly believe 256 gb is perfectly fine for windoze, when in fact it's not and never was.
- KVRist
- 39 posts since 7 May, 2026
It certainly would. In UI performance. But development-wise it would be very un-efficient for me. I have worked mainly in web development for the last 15 years (DSP has been a hobby, mainly running on ARM hardware). So when I found that Juce8 supported WebView, that was the moment I started building my first plugin. Being able to prototype and move stuff around in the development environment and with the toolchain I know inside out is of enormous value to me.
This became a business after I had built Curves & Membranes out of an old oscillator model I tried to get working for eurorack 12ish years ago. (a loong story for another time). When I played around with that synth (built only for my own use), I decided to make it a business and give it a shot at running it full-time. Three months in, it looks like the goal of making a living on it by the end of the year is achievable. But I still have a massive amount of stuff to learn and enhancements to make. Maybe one day I'll learn to do the interfaces natively, but at the moment, my current toolchain is my best friend.
All the Best,
Rasmus
Product Janitor and Founder - Unusable Engineering - www.unusable.net
- KVRist
- 39 posts since 7 May, 2026
I have an update coming for P&D that takes care of part of that, mainly built for windows. I will use your feedback to give it another check, if I can enhance it further before release. If it works well I will use the same optimizations on the other plugins to.pekbro wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 6:14 pm About that, I notice the plugins keep a large web cache, can you set those up to auto-delete?
554.9 mb (combined) webcache from these plugins atm. Looks like win deletes them after a while, but some of it has been there some time, seems to be duplicate data and therefore unnecessary anyway?
tbh I'm not fond of webview, this is one reason for that. My root drive is only 256 gb.
Honestly, I'd like to understand why so many developers are using it. Is it just to for the benefit of the UI? Some like to push updates with it as well.
Anyway, for me it's a constant battle to save and reclaim space, pc makers stupidly believe 256 gb is perfectly fine for windoze, when in fact it's not and never was.
Thanks for the heads up.
All the Best,
Rasmus
Product Janitor and Founder - Unusable Engineering - www.unusable.net
- KVRAF
- 8557 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
I don't mind doing it manually either, so long as I know whats safe to delete.unusable wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 6:43 pmI have an update coming for P&D that takes care of part of that, mainly built for windows. I will use your feedback to give it another check, if I can enhance it further before release. If it works well I will use the same optimizations on the other plugins to.pekbro wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 6:14 pm About that, I notice the plugins keep a large web cache, can you set those up to auto-delete?
554.9 mb (combined) webcache from these plugins atm. Looks like win deletes them after a while, but some of it has been there some time, seems to be duplicate data and therefore unnecessary anyway?
tbh I'm not fond of webview, this is one reason for that. My root drive is only 256 gb.
Honestly, I'd like to understand why so many developers are using it. Is it just to for the benefit of the UI? Some like to push updates with it as well.
Anyway, for me it's a constant battle to save and reclaim space, pc makers stupidly believe 256 gb is perfectly fine for windoze, when in fact it's not and never was.
Thanks for the heads up.
All the Best,
Rasmus
