Bitwig made me switch my amateur/fun music project from Windows to Linux. It completed the transition. Music was the last thing keeping me on evilcorp.
Why Linux is Becoming Impossible for Audio Developers to Ignore
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7184 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
This comment wasn't a developer, but a Linux user with a common opinion:
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRian
- 601 posts since 24 Feb, 2008 from Germany
Kaiser Wilhelm II ?
Ah wait, that was the guy with horses and cars.
Ah wait, that was the guy with horses and cars.
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Tone2 Synthesizers Tone2 Synthesizers https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=680600
- KVRian
- 580 posts since 18 Oct, 2023
Thanks for sharing your experience.Tiles wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 3:52 pmYeah, this is how it looks in the real world. You are not alone. I can back that up with very similar numbers from my own software.Morphoice wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 3:18 pm For the plugin I released a few hours ago, I put up PC, Mac, and Linux builds side by side. Out of roughly a thousand downloads so far, exactly 2 were Linux. There's not much more I can do than offer it, the actual numbers just don't reflect the demand that gets framed in threads like this.
I can share these numbers and data:
Sales:
54% of the PAYING CUSTOMERS that fund our tiny company are from PC.
45% of the PAYING CUSTOMERS that fund our tiny company are on Mac.
We only got a hand full of people that use Linux. I'd estimate <1%. We do not offer native versions, but our software works with WINE.
OS versions:
45% of the PC users still use Win10. The rest is Win11. Win7 is still used by a few but neglectible these days. We do not longer actively run software testing for Win7 or WinXP. These users can stick with an older version if necessary.
Mac users are more up-to-date with their OS. Most of them use the current or previous OS version. Quite a few are still on Intel Macs. We dropped support for Intel32 bit and PowerPC.
https://www.tone2.com
Our award-winning synthesizers offer true high-end sound quality.
Our award-winning synthesizers offer true high-end sound quality.
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- KVRian
- 551 posts since 18 May, 2020
You are Definitely missing out on native sales.Tone2 Synthesizers wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 5:45 amThanks for sharing your experience.Tiles wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 3:52 pmYeah, this is how it looks in the real world. You are not alone. I can back that up with very similar numbers from my own software.Morphoice wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 3:18 pm For the plugin I released a few hours ago, I put up PC, Mac, and Linux builds side by side. Out of roughly a thousand downloads so far, exactly 2 were Linux. There's not much more I can do than offer it, the actual numbers just don't reflect the demand that gets framed in threads like this.
I can share these numbers and data:
Sales:
54% of the PAYING CUSTOMERS that fund our tiny company are from PC.
45% of the PAYING CUSTOMERS that fund our tiny company are on Mac.
We only got a hand full of people that use Linux. I'd estimate <1%. We do not offer native versions, but our software works with WINE.
OS versions:
45% of the PC users still use Win10. The rest is Win11. Win7 is still used by a few but neglectible these days. We do not longer actively run software testing for Win7 or WinXP. These users can stick with an older version if necessary.
Mac users are more up-to-date with their OS. Most of them use the current or previous OS version. Quite a few are still on Intel Macs. We dropped support for Intel32 bit and PowerPC.
Modart would just offer wine versions of Pianoteq instead of selling $929 native Linux bundles.
Nobody is going to buy a license for another OS to use it with wine. Your wine users clearly had a windows license in the past. They weren't Linux customers.
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- KVRian
- 551 posts since 18 May, 2020
The only time I EVER considered buying a non-native plugin to wrap, personally, was before 2022 when reverbs were a bit sparse.
Folks would say to get the Valhalla reverbs and wrap them. I considered it, but I got all of the great convolution verbs from the thread on here, and just held tight with native stuff - now I have well over 20 great native reverbs - 9 of them paid for. 3 I should go donate to.
Folks would say to get the Valhalla reverbs and wrap them. I considered it, but I got all of the great convolution verbs from the thread on here, and just held tight with native stuff - now I have well over 20 great native reverbs - 9 of them paid for. 3 I should go donate to.
REAPER + Davinci Resolve Pro on Manjaro KDE. Neve 88m. Focusrite 18i20 2nd gen. Neumann NDH30 headphones. Mics: Telefunken TF39, AT4050, Miktek C7e, EV RE-15. VSTs: u-he Hive 2, F'em, Renoise Redux, Apisonic Speedrum 2.
- KVRAF
- 8121 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
I bridged the Valhalla plugs as have used them for years, familiarity etc. but could probably replace VintageVerb with any number of free native ones, the Dragonfly ones for example, quite surprised the quality of a lot of these plugs. Sticking with Delay and UberMod for now as both have a unique sound I'd miss for certain things but getting easier by the day to find native replacements for most things.TechHaus wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 6:47 amFolks would say to get the Valhalla reverbs and wrap them. ... now I have well over 20 great native reverbs
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Tone2 Synthesizers Tone2 Synthesizers https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=680600
- KVRian
- 580 posts since 18 Oct, 2023
It really can't be that dramatic. We only received a hand full of requests for Linux native versions during many years. Apart from this I personally prefer to miss a tiny bit of money instead of wasting months of my short life to keep things Linux native.
Instead, I will invest the development time into creating free updates with new features for the existing products.
https://www.tone2.com
Our award-winning synthesizers offer true high-end sound quality.
Our award-winning synthesizers offer true high-end sound quality.
- KVRAF
- 18460 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
This thread is just an attempt to make Linux look a lot more popular than it is, so they can garner more support. It's always the same 6 dudes asking for it.Tone2 Synthesizers wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 5:45 amThanks for sharing your experience.Tiles wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 3:52 pmYeah, this is how it looks in the real world. You are not alone. I can back that up with very similar numbers from my own software.Morphoice wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 3:18 pm For the plugin I released a few hours ago, I put up PC, Mac, and Linux builds side by side. Out of roughly a thousand downloads so far, exactly 2 were Linux. There's not much more I can do than offer it, the actual numbers just don't reflect the demand that gets framed in threads like this.
I can share these numbers and data:
Sales:
54% of the PAYING CUSTOMERS that fund our tiny company are from PC.
45% of the PAYING CUSTOMERS that fund our tiny company are on Mac.
We only got a hand full of people that use Linux. I'd estimate <1%. We do not offer native versions, but our software works with WINE.
OS versions:
45% of the PC users still use Win10. The rest is Win11. Win7 is still used by a few but neglectible these days. We do not longer actively run software testing for Win7 or WinXP. These users can stick with an older version if necessary.
Mac users are more up-to-date with their OS. Most of them use the current or previous OS version. Quite a few are still on Intel Macs. We dropped support for Intel32 bit and PowerPC.
Also, audio on Windows 11 is fine. I've been using Windows since a bit after Apple dropped support for Motorola chips.
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- KVRian
- 551 posts since 18 May, 2020
Acoustica coming to Linux lesssgoooo
viewtopic.php?p=9263445#p9263445
That's like 3 devs this week and it's only Tuesday.
viewtopic.php?p=9263445#p9263445
That's like 3 devs this week and it's only Tuesday.
REAPER + Davinci Resolve Pro on Manjaro KDE. Neve 88m. Focusrite 18i20 2nd gen. Neumann NDH30 headphones. Mics: Telefunken TF39, AT4050, Miktek C7e, EV RE-15. VSTs: u-he Hive 2, F'em, Renoise Redux, Apisonic Speedrum 2.
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- KVRian
- 551 posts since 18 May, 2020
Not being available on all 3 os's in 2026 feels "outdated".
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- KVRAF
- 2764 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
I think I'll wait until around 500+ of my applications and plugins are Linux native. But for my home server it's definitively Linux.
Mac Mini M4 Pro | 14 Cores (10P/4E) | 48GB RAM | Studio One | Reason | Bitwig Studio | Logic Pro | FL Studio | Cubase Pro | Waveform | Reaper | Renoise | ~1000 VSTs/AUs | ~350 REs
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7184 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
This is awesome news!!!! They've definitely got a sale coming from me!!!TechHaus wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 3:10 pm Acoustica coming to Linux lesssgoooo
viewtopic.php?p=9263445#p9263445
That's like 3 devs this week and it's only Tuesday.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7184 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
I received another interesting response from a Linux developer:
https://www.techpowerup.com/347319/it-i ... windows-11in terms of audio *processing pipeline quality* we are now in a hilarious situation where Linux audio as provided by PipeWire is demonstrably better than what Windows 11 is equipped to provide:
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/And in terms of users, 3.99% of all Steam users (as of 2026-05) is not a huge _fraction_ but it is a huge absolute number, and it keeps slowly growing:
(click on the "OS version" line to drill down to OS type and then distro)
it may very well still be true that developing for Linux users is not worth the cost and effort for those particular developers in your discussion thread, but those data points may be enough to prove the point that this *is* a case-by-case decision and not a broad generalization that will hold for most or many other devs.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7184 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Another Linux developer:
Windows has a tendency to hand you buffer sizes that aren't a power of 2, the plugin host can't abstract that away for you unless it rebuffers, which would add latency.
This might seem inconsequential, but for stuff like the dft and some other dsp algorithms it has performance implications.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
