SUNO is killer!

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mabian wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 8:53 pm If there something Suno is "killing" is enjoying the process of making music.
None of the generative AI users (and especially fans) enjoyed making music in the first place. It's a chore to them. Just look at the Uwe Boll of EDM here who outsources everything to his bandmate (who now outsources everything to AI) because they literally hate everything about making music (but love posing as musicians). AI can't kill what was never alive to begin with.

Those who enjoy making music on the other hand don't use generative AI. Because to them, there is simply nothing to enjoy. They don't learn anything about making music from it, they can't execute anything or create anything with it, they have no control over anything and the result is always crap.

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ksandvik wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 7:22 am Tidal now flags AI content and does not provide any streaming profits. Hurrah, Apple Music next I hope (Spotify is hopeless but they will drown in their AI slop long term :-) .
Memory prices must go up. This is the only thing that would force all streaming services to filter out all the AI slop.

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mabian wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 10:48 am But, even though I haven't listen closely to Suno productions, I'm wondering. Do they have tasteful solos? Do they have an arrangement construction that closely follows the lyrics so that they go in pairs as a unique emotional wave?
They don't have any of that. And not only that - AI still fails spectaculary at the most basic tension/release mechanics or building repetition/variation contrasts or choosing the right gain for instruments and vocals. Generative AI is the perfect example for "Correlation does not imply causation" and why boolean logic/math is so important. There are many things you can only do either the right or the wrong way.

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Utter bullshit. AI is capable of doing all of those things every bit as well as the most talented and successful songwriters. The song Ghettosynth posted on the other thread yesterday, for example, does those things perfectly well. And he only spent a few minutes on it.
Zeisner wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2026 1:42 pmNone of the generative AI users (and especially fans) enjoyed making music in the first place. It's a chore to them. Just look at the Uwe Boll of EDM here who outsources everything to his bandmate (who now outsources everything to AI) because they literally hate everything about making music (but love posing as musicians). AI can't kill what was never alive to begin with.

Those who enjoy making music on the other hand don't use generative AI. Because to them, there is simply nothing to enjoy. They don't learn anything about making music from it, they can't execute anything or create anything with it, they have no control over anything and the result is always crap.
I think you need to get your nomenclature in order. Musicians are people who play music, composers and songwriters make music. Of course, engineers are people who wish they were good enough to do either. A bit like the saying about teachers - those who can, do and those who can't work as engineers for the first lot.
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