Question for EZ Drummer or Superior Drummer users.

[D2sX9ek8w3]

HI,
I am considering purchasing some 3rd party MIDI drum files. They are only available mapped for the Toontrack engines, but I would use them with my XLN Addictive Drums 2 license.

I don't have the Toontrack products.

I plan to use a MIDI Mapper to fly the MIDI from it original mapping to the XLN mapping.

I am having difficulty finding an official Toontrack drum map chart.

I found a few user-made charts and am beginning to think there is no global map for Toontrack drums and that they have different maps for different kits.

It seems like a MIDI clip made for one kit's sound files could sound weird on another kit.

How does that work with Toontrack? Does the VST have its own internal remapping system?

Or is there a global Toontrack map that I can refer to while creating a remap recipe for use with AD2?

Thanks for any info you can share.

[D2sX9ek8w3]

OK, well, don't I feel stupid; is the solution I am looking for as easy as opening my Addictive Drums MIDI mapping and switching from AD2 Standard to Toontrack EZD3?

Duh.... :-S

[Dirk Diggler]

Well there you go, I love it when problems solve themselves.
Happy remapping.

[D2sX9ek8w3]

Hi,
The built-in feature allows me to hear the intended drum part, but I am realizing it does nothing to help me see the correct note names in my MIDI Editor with the different drum kit labels displayed as note names.

I could use one of the user-made Toontrack charts I have found, but they all seem to differ in the kit they describe.

I would still like to find an official Toontrack drum map. I downloaded the Superior Drummer 3 manual and did not see a chart in it.

I am wondering where I might find one.

Thank you.

[D2sX9ek8w3]

FWIW, I found a user-made spreadsheet that seems to have been made with great devotion to detail and accuracy.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... id=2#gid=2

It will be very helpful for me.

The info in the spreadsheet furthers my curiosity about how MIDI clips made for Toontrack drums work with EZ Drummer or Superior Drummer. It seems that a MIDI clip that sounds great with some particular Toontrack drum kit, could make unexpected sounds with another Toontrack drum kit.

So, I am wondering if the MIDI packs sold by and/or for Toontrack drums are intended to be used with specific kits, rather than with your choice of any of the kits?

Disclosure: I am not speaking about mismatching a "Rock-n-Roll" MIDI clip with a "Latin Hand Percussion" sample library. I am curious about mixing and matching "Mid-West-Metal" MIDI clips with a "West Coast Rock" drum kit. Is it common in the Toontrack ecosystem to learn that maps do not align 100%?

The primary reason I am asking is to gain insight into how 3rd-party MIDI clip vendors might map their MIDI. Should I expect them to, or hope they will, describe the particular drum kit the part is played for?

In other words, if I go to the trouble of remapping a MIDI clip from Toontrack to Addicitive Drums 2 how will I know which Toontrack map is the basis?

Thank you!

[dwringer]

Within SD3, loading other Toontrack drum MIDI is automatically remapped to the nearest equivalent of whatever kit is loaded, but if you take the MIDI out of SD3 it stays on whatever that kit's custom mapping is. As I believe you've discovered, the different kits from various expansions do have their own different mappings. So as long as you stay within SD3 it "just works" but for your use case you would need to figure out a correspondence and map it yourself. There are some official maps available from the in-app help menu and possibly on Toontrack's website, but their draconian paywall requiring both a login and product ownership makes it all but inaccessible even to actual customers, so I can't tell you exactly where to find them. In general, yes, you should expect or hope that MIDI clip vendors will describe the particular kit their part is played for (or, assume general MIDI drums if they're not sold as specifically for Toontrack products)

[D2sX9ek8w3]

Hi,
Thank you for the helpful explanation.

Thank you!