Why Linux is Becoming Impossible for Audio Developers to Ignore
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- KVRist
- 223 posts since 7 Nov, 2021
Intersting figures from the Reaper Developers regarding deployment of Reaper DAW, based on the user base data.
"currently about 80% Windows, 16% macOS, 3% linux, 1% TRSDOS"
"currently about 80% Windows, 16% macOS, 3% linux, 1% TRSDOS"
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7198 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Because you are wrong. Here, go to this link and pay the man money. He'll give you the latest compiled version: https://kushview.net/product/element/keys_au1 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 6:43 pmyou still need to 'make" it though, stop playing semantics to support your theme!audiojunkie wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 4:22 am
You don’t need to compile it. You can get a copy from the developer. He open sourced the code, and only charges a fee to download the binary. It’s available on his site.
There is no "installer" version at this point. the developer even states that on git hub!
Why are you so bloody argumentative? Is being right all the time an issue for you?
Or you could go here and get an older version compiled for free: https://kushview.net/element/download/
Why is it that when I try to help people, they bad mouth me and don't believe what I say? All I've ever tried to do was help you.
As I've tried to tell you before, the developer uses an Open Source business model--just like Ardour does. The software is open source and available for anyone to use, compile, improve-upon, etc. The only thing he charges for, is for compiling the software and providing a binary. You pay the man, and he gives you the binary. I can't be more straight forward and explain it better than this. If you don't get it after all this, I don't know what to say.
EDIT: I am going to try one more time to explain it. I sought the help of AI to try to explain it better in layman's terms:
The developer isn't selling the software itself in the traditional sense. He uses an open-source business model, similar to projects like Ardour.
In the open-source world, the program's source code is publicly available. Anyone can view it, study it, modify it, improve it, or even compile it themselves if they have the technical knowledge. The software isn't locked away behind a paywall.
What the developer is actually charging for is the convenience and service he provides. Instead of requiring users to download the source code and build the program themselves, he compiles it into a ready-to-use binary and distributes that to paying customers.
Think of it like a recipe. The recipe is freely available to everyone, but not everyone has the time, tools, or expertise to cook the meal themselves. The developer's business is essentially saying, "The recipe is free, but if you'd like a finished meal that's ready to eat, I'll prepare it for you."
So when you pay him, you're not paying for access to the source code. You're paying him to do the work of building, packaging, testing, and delivering a ready-to-run version of the software. Many users are happy to pay for that convenience because it's easier than setting up a development environment and compiling the software themselves.
This model is quite common in Linux and open-source communities. The software remains free and open, while the developer earns income through binaries, support, subscriptions, consulting, maintenance, or other services built around the project.
In short: the software is open source and available to everyone. The product he sells is convenience, packaging, and support—not exclusive access to the code.
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Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7198 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Interesting numbers. Do you happen to have a link to where those are posted?keys_au1 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 6:46 pm Intersting figures from the Reaper Developers regarding deployment of Reaper DAW, based on the user base data.
"currently about 80% Windows, 16% macOS, 3% linux, 1% TRSDOS"
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRian
- 1449 posts since 7 Oct, 2023 from Tokyo
I easily believe that for Reaper. Willing to bet you could also swap the MacOS and Windows percentages for "Percentage of people that paid for the license."
Reaper has among the best licensing approaches out there and you can use it for free forever if you are a douchebag and keep refusing to cough up the $60.
Reaper has among the best licensing approaches out there and you can use it for free forever if you are a douchebag and keep refusing to cough up the $60.
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- KVRist
- 223 posts since 7 Nov, 2021
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=309863 schwa is one of the folks behind Reaperaudiojunkie wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 7:20 pmInteresting numbers. Do you happen to have a link to where those are posted?keys_au1 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 6:46 pm Intersting figures from the Reaper Developers regarding deployment of Reaper DAW, based on the user base data.
"currently about 80% Windows, 16% macOS, 3% linux, 1% TRSDOS"
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- KVRist
- 223 posts since 7 Nov, 2021
yeah it is strange... especially when those same folks will happily spend $120 on ONE plugin hahaha!stoopicus wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2026 2:01 am I easily believe that for Reaper. Willing to bet you could also swap the MacOS and Windows percentages for "Percentage of people that paid for the license."
Reaper has among the best licensing approaches out there and you can use it for free forever if you are a douchebag and keep refusing to cough up the $60.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7198 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Yes, I’m aware. Thank you for the information.keys_au1 wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2026 2:16 amhttps://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=309863 schwa is one of the folks behind Reaperaudiojunkie wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 7:20 pmInteresting numbers. Do you happen to have a link to where those are posted?keys_au1 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2026 6:46 pm Intersting figures from the Reaper Developers regarding deployment of Reaper DAW, based on the user base data.
"currently about 80% Windows, 16% macOS, 3% linux, 1% TRSDOS"
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7198 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
You guys are making assumptions. I thought we were all about discussing facts here.keys_au1 wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2026 2:17 amyeah it is strange... especially when those same folks will happily spend $120 on ONE plugin hahaha!stoopicus wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2026 2:01 am I easily believe that for Reaper. Willing to bet you could also swap the MacOS and Windows percentages for "Percentage of people that paid for the license."
Reaper has among the best licensing approaches out there and you can use it for free forever if you are a douchebag and keep refusing to cough up the $60.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRian
- 605 posts since 24 Feb, 2008 from Germany
¯\_(ツ)_/¯Tiles wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2026 3:52 pm
We all know the pattern by now.
Sales figures don't count.
Download numbers don't count.
Real-world experience from developers doesn't count.
At some point, the question is no longer whether the evidence is good enough, but whether any evidence that contradicts the narrative will ever be accepted.
“The biggest crime of a musician is to play notes instead of making music.”
Isaac Stern
Isaac Stern
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- KVRian
- 1449 posts since 7 Oct, 2023 from Tokyo
Reaper probably has a disproportionately high linux market share too because your choices are basically Reaper and Bitwig for pro audio DAW. Sure, Ardour is there too, but in terms of apps with any hope of widespread developer support, it's Bitwig or Reaper.
- KVRian
- 605 posts since 24 Feb, 2008 from Germany
TRSDos is interesting though. Maybe i should support that platform too ^^
“The biggest crime of a musician is to play notes instead of making music.”
Isaac Stern
Isaac Stern
