With All These Emulations Coming Out...

[gaf_thit]

FXpansion Cypher was in many ways a version of the Andromeda, as told to me by the man himself. When I manually copied the Andromeda patches over to it, it was the closest I've gotten in plugin form.

Did that also translate into Cypher 2? I don't remember the differences between the iterations atm.

[Uncle E]

Ah, I meant to write Cypher 2.

[exmatproton]

Ah, right. The famous engineering definition:

"If removing the CPU stops it working, everything inside must be digital."

Excellent. We can now add fuel-injected engines, washing machines, CNC lathes and modern power stations to the growing list of digital synthesizers!

Cute strawman. Did you genuinely think that was a clever analogy, or are you just completely out of your depth when it comes to instrument architecture?

It’s wild that you think pointing out a few discrete analog components wins the argument. An isolated component is completely meaningless without the digital control system that orchestrates the entire circuit.

On Andromeda the oscillator circuit, the VCA circuit, ithe filter circuit, the envelope circuits, the modulation matrix system, and everything else it's doing ALL begin in the CPU. The CPU is just a massive collection of tiny transistors. About 2.9 million of them. Each one either has charge of electrons or doesn't. When it generates a value for something it sends electrons down a circuit to a DAC, that DAC takes that stream of electrons moving down the circuit and transforms them to another voltage, that voltage then goes down the circuit to another component called a VCO that transforms DC power into AC power. It uses the stream of electrons from the CPU.by way of the DAC to control this process. It's all part of the same circuit..All of those other components also work the same way and are controlled by streams of electrons flowing from the CPU

While geeking out over the Andromeda's architecture is fun and all, reality is the physical hardware is just a ticking clock of failing power supplies, dead custom ASICs, brittle screen resonators, and ghost-modding pots.

Remember that analog mojo you keep talking about about is literally just your failing power supply cooking those irreplaceable Wavefront chips to death

I'd rather use a plugin that sounds awesome and does for me everything I need, versus owning a paperweight that is 100% incapable of passing its own tuning routine

Making and playing music is just so much more fun than needing a soldering iron and a prayer to load a patch, and who needs to keep a supply of unobtainium 3MHz ceramic resonators on hand just to boot the damn thing

It is very simple;

is the actual audio being generated by and running thru an analog path (osc, filters, amp); analog synth. Or, a digitally controlled analog synth, when it's controller(s) are digital

is the actual audio being generated by chips instead of transistors (etc); digital synth. No matter what the rest of the config is. It can have analog filters, analog amp...it is still a digital synth. Or, a hybrid (many synths from the 80's and 90's are hybrids)

A6 is an digitally controlled analog synth. Period.

And why didn't anyone bother to emulate it (yet)? Who knows.....i don't.

[oscillik]

Digitally Controlled Oscillators. Hm.

[I.M. Blur]

The analog vs digital argument was very entertaining to read, sincerely, thank you guys!

[wagtunes]

The analog vs digital argument was very entertaining to read, sincerely, thank you guys!

Was that sarcasm? Because it gave me a headache.

[james_laverc]

Can't SOMEBODY make a freaking A6?

At least then I could die in peace. Is this synth so hard to make? I know there's a demand so that can't be it. And please don't tell me about UVI's pathetic attempt at this with samples. I want a real A6.

Why do you think nobody has come out with this yet?

Hi man... Check out this video at 1:46. Isn`t that your synthesizer, on the right?

[wagtunes]

Can't SOMEBODY make a freaking A6?

At least then I could die in peace. Is this synth so hard to make? I know there's a demand so that can't be it. And please don't tell me about UVI's pathetic attempt at this with samples. I want a real A6.

Why do you think nobody has come out with this yet?

Hi man... Check out this video at 1:46. Isn`t that your synthesizer, on the right?

Your point? It's not even close to having the real thing.

[james_laverc]

Can't SOMEBODY make a freaking A6?

At least then I could die in peace. Is this synth so hard to make? I know there's a demand so that can't be it. And please don't tell me about UVI's pathetic attempt at this with samples. I want a real A6.

Why do you think nobody has come out with this yet?

Hi man... Check out this video at 1:46. Isn`t that your synthesizer, on the right?

Your point? It's not even close to having the real thing.

Oh... I thought you were after a software version of that.

Nevermind, then.

[IvyBirds]

Can't SOMEBODY make a freaking A6?

At least then I could die in peace. Is this synth so hard to make? I know there's a demand so that can't be it. And please don't tell me about UVI's pathetic attempt at this with samples. I want a real A6.

Why do you think nobody has come out with this yet?

Hi man... Check out this video at 1:46. Isn`t that your synthesizer, on the right?

Your point? It's not even close to having the real thing.

Then buy the real thing, problem solved. There are currently around a dozen for sale globally on Reverb, and you can one from many different countries around the world. So if the real thing is so important buy one and be done with it

However if you are unwilling to buy the real thing, the sound of the A6 is obviously not very important or mission critical to you

So sampled instruments like "UVI Mission" are as close as you are going to get it really need

Outside of that just get one of the myriad of VA plugins that have Ladder and/or SEM filters and a deep Mod Matrix.

As has been communicated in this thread many times from many different people the A6 was a workstation synth from the year 2000. Your DAW is a better workstation than the A6 ever was and can deliver more varieties of "analog" sounds than the A6 ever could.

I think rather than wish Arturia make an A6 plugin, you should just wish they just add Alesis' version of the A6 Ladder and SEM filter in Pigments. Doing so would mean you could pretty much emulate everything about the A6 in Pigments. The main exception is the A6 has a ribbon controller that's a controller thing however and if you have a controller that has one you use it the same way in Pigments

For me personally I think the ladder filter and the State Variable SEM filter that is already in Pigments sounds better than what the Andromeda can do. That makes Pigments a better A6 style workstation than what the actual A6 is. Plus I have many other filters available that are not in the A6

If you think there is some kind of magic unicorn fairy dust in the A6 however get the hardware nothing else will ever do for you

[TheMaestro]

Closest as of now, I think.
https://www.uvi.net/mission-6

[gaf_thit]

I remember this old plugin, where the dev tried to copy the architecture of the A6, but as he said the end result did not sound like it, but similar(ish)...
Ah, found it: B6 by KBrown
https://plugins4free.com/plugin/2627
He has a lot of emulations, but all in 32-bit. Seems to concentrate on baking instead lately apparently.
PS: Haven't tested it myself by the way, just a faint memory triggered by this thread.