You know I just bought a copy of "Drawings of Patient OT" hadn't heard it in years.
It was made in 1986 for gods sake!!!
Talk about prescient.
This band sums up everything that I like about industrial music.
They are still at it too.
Saw them two months ago...Amazing.
Einsturzende Neubauten anyone??
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- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
1983 in fact. Love Patient OT and Kollaps. My interest in them waned a bit after that (Halber Mensch okay, but some of the early 90s stuff was a bit much for me).herodotus wrote:You know I just bought a copy of "Drawings of Patient OT" hadn't heard it in years.
It was made in 1986 for gods sake!!!
Talk about prescient.
One thing I really like now is that they are exploring new business models with their latest projects with fan subscriptions, webcasts, etc.
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- KVRian
- 1408 posts since 9 May, 2003 from Manchester, UK
nah, they're rubbish. They just listened to Depeche Mode's 'Construction Time again' and ripped it off entirely. 
http://chrisamusic.bandcamp.com/
"It's square to be hip"
"It's square to be hip"
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- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Valencia, Spain.
They are one of my favourite bands. However, unlike you, I find them interesting when they realised noise could be mixed with subtlety to create wonderful melodies, that is, from Halber Mensch onwards. Unlike many people, I prefer their quietest albums, 'funf auf der nach...', 'silence is sexy' and 'perpetuum mobile'. just amazing. been listening to them for many years now.
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- KVRAF
- 8077 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
Count me as one of those that doesn't like Perpetuum Mobile. I'd have to say Tabula Rasa is my favorite.origami wrote:They are one of my favourite bands. However, unlike you, I find them interesting when they realised noise could be mixed with subtlety to create wonderful melodies, that is, from Halber Mensch onwards. Unlike many people, I prefer their quietest albums, 'funf auf der nach...', 'silence is sexy' and 'perpetuum mobile'. just amazing. been listening to them for many years now.
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- KVRAF
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- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
"5 on the Richter Scale" and "Haus der Luge" are all time faves.
I think that music today owes them way more than they are given credit (or money) for.
Didn't eminem sample them at some point?
I think that music today owes them way more than they are given credit (or money) for.
Didn't eminem sample them at some point?
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
SPK were better, the bird was ok looking. All that chainsaw/ metal bashing shite had already been done much better by test dept (who had the misfortune to be not german, and therefore 'untuetonic' and out of the nme scene )... anyway. Im fact I swear John Peel only kept playing Nebueten (or whatever) cos he found their name funny; them and feiblillgerrr zelupdskontrollorrr.. or summat.
Oh, i'd best do...
)... anyway. Im fact I swear John Peel only kept playing Nebueten (or whatever) cos he found their name funny; them and feiblillgerrr zelupdskontrollorrr.. or summat.Oh, i'd best do...
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
What are you some kind of rock journalist or something?donkey tugger wrote:SPK were better, the bird was ok looking. All that chainsaw/ metal bashing shite had already been done much better by test dept (who had the misfortune to be not german, and therefore 'untuetonic' and out of the nme scene
Oh, i'd best do...
Because I personally think that the whole "they weren't half as good as ( insert obscure band name here) who did all that stuff 6 months earlier" school of criticism is more dated than any music, ever.
And SPK was a one hit wonder.
This is a quote from Graeme Revel: " Music like Janet Jacksons 'Nasty' is the only sort of valid industrial music being produced anymore"
What a silly man.
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Yes.....herodotus wrote: What are you some kind of rock journalist or something?
and no...
One is.....
but on the other hand.....
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
Maybe, but then they went all dance shite.donkey tugger wrote:All that chainsaw/ metal bashing shite had already been done much better by test dept
I always quite liked Blixa Bargeld's voice, straight through Bad Seeds stuff. Was what always made Neubaten for me.
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- KVRAF
- 3588 posts since 13 May, 2004 from montreal
My friend Alan has a suitcase full of 24-track Neubauten masters that Mufti asked him to hold on to for various complicated reasons back in 1990... he's tried to give them back numerous times since, unsuccessfully.
They were great in their day, and still have their moments, though with Marc and Mufti's departure it can never be the same.
And DT, Neubauten predate Test Dept. by three years. Not really the same approach anyway. EN fall more into a vein of experimentalism that had existed in Germany since the Radio Cologne days, whereas TD fell more directly into the postpunk/postindustrial stream that was already into it's fourth wave by the time they started.
They were great in their day, and still have their moments, though with Marc and Mufti's departure it can never be the same.
And DT, Neubauten predate Test Dept. by three years. Not really the same approach anyway. EN fall more into a vein of experimentalism that had existed in Germany since the Radio Cologne days, whereas TD fell more directly into the postpunk/postindustrial stream that was already into it's fourth wave by the time they started.