KVR Audio

Innermost · Post by **Innermost** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 8:28 am

What is funny @shabdahbriah is that your Soundcloud profile says you come from Seattle. As far as I know, Seattle is in a country who defends freedom speech as if it was the holy graal. But, there, for any (good) reasons, you seem to have a problem with my free speech.
So, what do you really think about free speech?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 9:33 am

I stopped reading after page 1. Already too much of my life wasted on this nonsense.

Innermost · Post by **Innermost** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 9:37 am

wagtunes wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 9:33 am I stopped reading after page 1. Already too much of my life wasted on this nonsense.

Then why do you comment on last page?
Strange for a guy who exposes publicly that he doesn't really knows how that conversation evolves.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 9:59 am

Innermost wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 9:37 am
wagtunes wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 9:33 am I stopped reading after page 1. Already too much of my life wasted on this nonsense.
Then why do you comment on last page?
Strange for a guy who exposes publicly that he doesn't really knows how that conversation evolves.

I know that you're a douche and I wouldn't download anything from you if it were free and the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Innermost · Post by **Innermost** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 10:05 am

No problem for the download. I love freedom. I define myself as an Anarchist.
And just a question, how do you know I'm a douche without having read the entire discussion (you stopped at page one you said)?
And thanks for the "douche" word, I didn't know that that could be an insult in english (I am French, hence my arrogance).

Innermost · Post by **Innermost** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 10:34 am

While you criticize the form, others are loving the substance. And thanks to your criticisms, I’m visible to those looking for the substance.

kraster · Post by **kraster** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 11:44 am

What substance?

You've almost made an art of avoiding anything substantial. Your opening post was more provocation than presentation. It told us nothing about what it does or how it works just a deliberately antagonistic stance from the get go.

The issue is that even if your product is good, prospective buyers are likely to be put off by the needlessly edgy, self-consciously provocative way you have presented it.

Hundreds of plugins pass through these pages. It can be a tough crowd, but being frank, clear and, dare I say it, professional tends to go a long way.

Your approach here has been needlessly combative, even in response to perfectly ordinary questions. You then seem to treat the fact that people clicked the link or kept arguing as proof that the approach succeeded, as though generating attention through irritation amounts to a victory.

I would not touch the product or the website at this point, because you have made the whole discussion about the surrounding drama and about yourself rather than the software.

I have no time for that nonsense.

Innermost · Post by **Innermost** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 11:55 am

No problem. Don't want you to waste your time.
And thanks saying my product is good (even if strange because you said you will not touch it, so, what thinking about your opinion on everything you said when you say one thing and its opposite in the same message ?).
And that's a great compliment when you say "You've almost made an art..."
"Your opening post was more provocation than presentation. " Absolutly.

sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 12:48 pm

Ya know whats funny though? I have done the same thing, vibe-coded a VST3 plugin, maybe I put it in the wrong forum, seeing as it is a Host and a VST3 itself, but I got zero interest and yet you, because of your poor attitude have got 7 pages of responses so far! Proves having attitude works though eh?!

At the end of the day, people ranting about AI, yeah, I get it, I really do, but it won't stop and it will get worse, but AI will remain. You really hate what AI is doing to the world? Then you need to stop breathing! Your very existence causes harm to the world you live in. Every decision you make affects someone in a negative way, directly or indirectly.

Innermost · Post by **Innermost** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 12:53 pm

A bit of translation for those who didn't understand:

1. Title of the post:
"I know you hate it" -> "I know you hate AI"
"They hate you too" -> "Suno and co don't care about what you think"

2. The post
"You don't like AI VST plugins" -> rethorical question. I know after having many press articles about my work that a lot of musicians hate, at reason, AI companies.
"They don't like you too" -> Remember the CEO of Suno when he said something like musicians don't love making music (it's not the precise words, but I am sure you remember what I am speaking about)
"Then f**k them" -> Destroy generated sounds, AI models that I give you in my VST
"Beta version is free if you dare" -> Provocative call to action
https://obsidian-neural.com/local.php -> Then go here and try by yourself
Screenshot -> Here to show you the product. An image=1000 words.

3. There's no free

Innermost · Post by **Innermost** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 12:57 pm

sl23 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 12:48 pm Ya know whats funny though? I have done the same thing, vibe-coded a VST3 plugin, maybe I put it in the wrong forum, seeing as it is a Host and a VST3 itself, but I got zero interest and yet you, because of your poor attitude have got 7 pages of responses so far! Proves having attitude works though eh?!

At the end of the day, people ranting about AI, yeah, I get it, I really do, but it won't stop and it will get worse, but AI will remain. You really hate what AI is doing to the world? Then you need to stop breathing! Your very existence causes harm to the world you live in. Every decision you make affects someone in a negative way, directly or indirectly.

Poor attitude is what getting me rich.
Their rich attitude is what getting them poor.

sl23 · Post by **sl23** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 12:59 pm

Very true! Assholes are the only ones who prosper in this world! While the honest and genuine suffer. Thats the way of the world. You think ADHD is an excuse? Nah, I have it too, and I wouldnt lower myself. Money is not a god! Thats why mine is free!

Innermost · Post by **Innermost** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 1:04 pm

Yep. I am an asshole. They are saint. That's ok. We don't have all the same chance in life. They are lucky to be who they are. We are doomed. Surrounded by corporate morality. I am ok with that. I love inhuman saints. Thanks to their superiority we can let our inferiority shine.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Sat Jul 11, 2026 1:48 pm

Cuauhtli wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2026 4:12 pm
mimtemdo wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2026 2:35 pm AI data centers are already a huge drain on electrical grids and water, as well as taking up tons of land. There will be a point where many people will die due to an emergency created by these data centers.

I'm not going to participate in the killing just because I can't create my own drum loops. My music that five people listen to isn't more important than anyone's life.
Local power company wants to raise rates 57% in January for a mo-fo data center.

I wonder when the violent revolt will begin.

I know you hate it - They hate us too