KVR Audio

cobaia · Post by **cobaia** » Mon Jul 13, 2026 7:30 pm

Since there are so few threads on Retrologue, I will just reply in this ancient one.

Is the Diva default patch considered very analog? I like it despite its simplicity and I recreated it in Retrologue 2, can you tell which one is which from this little audio (two identical halves)?

https://app.box.com/s/zp50sh4d4pv5jvalmrsnvfxfo4wph9b9

JerGoertz · Post by **JerGoertz** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:53 am

They both sound pretty good to me!

Alexander_D · Post by **Alexander_D** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 5:04 am

It's a really nice synth. Will be great if Steinberg will improve this one... but seems, that they don't do it with their old products...

ksandvik · Post by **ksandvik** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 6:36 am

VST only so there's limited use on the Mac platform, depending what DAW you use (one reason I skipped my free version).

PS: I like plugins I could use with both Logic Pro X and Ableton (that has VST support.).

psycho45039 · Post by **psycho45039** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 7:23 am

ksandvik wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 6:36 am VST only so there's limited use on the Mac platform, depending what DAW you use (one reason I skipped my free version).

PS: I like plugins I could use with both Logic Pro X and Ableton (that has VST support.).

It works as an AU on my Mac in Logic.

ksandvik · Post by **ksandvik** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 7:42 am

Oh, it's an AU now, I will check, last time I checked it was VST3 only as that's the Steinberg policy. Not that I'm drowning in retro SW synths myself.

PS: Maybe it was the 'free version' that came with my Arturia keyboard a year ago....

cobaia · Post by **cobaia** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 9:55 am

Alexander_D wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 5:04 am It's a really nice synth. Will be great if Steinberg will improve this one... but seems, that they don't do it with their old products...

Which improvements do you suggest?

Gam456 · Post by **Gam456** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 11:13 am

cobaia wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 9:55 am
Alexander_D wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 5:04 am It's a really nice synth. Will be great if Steinberg will improve this one... but seems, that they don't do it with their old products...
Which improvements do you suggest?

Simple, look what Diva can do. Alternate pan, drift, component modelling vco, vcf, vca,
zero delay feedback no artefacts or aliasing

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 12:11 pm

cobaia wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2026 7:30 pm Since there are so few threads on Retrologue, I will just reply in this ancient one.

Is the Diva default patch considered very analog? I like it despite its simplicity and I recreated it in Retrologue 2, can you tell which one is which from this little audio (two identical halves)?

https://app.box.com/s/zp50sh4d4pv5jvalmrsnvfxfo4wph9b9

Simple sounds like that may not yield a big difference, but, if you play both, you will notice a very big difference.

And, yes, I own(ed) both. Diva is a different league in terms of analogue modelling.

I would rather compare Retrologue to Sylenth1, and, even in that comparison, I prefer Sylenth1. Not just in sonic character, but also for more versatility with the unison, better internal saturation, a bit more punch in the sound etc.

Retrologue is surely one of the better DAW-included synths though.

Alexander_D · Post by **Alexander_D** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 12:40 pm

Gam456 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 11:13 am
cobaia wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 9:55 am
Alexander_D wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 5:04 am It's a really nice synth. Will be great if Steinberg will improve this one... but seems, that they don't do it with their old products...
Which improvements do you suggest?
Simple, look what Diva can do. Alternate pan, drift, component modelling vco, vcf, vca,
zero delay feedback no artefacts or aliasing

Exactly!

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:09 pm

The biggest thing I was missing from Retrologue is control over unison pan (shame that they didn't add that with version 2). And better sounding filters (which is admitteldy pretty subjective).

starflakeprj · Post by **starflakeprj** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:18 pm

cobaia wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 9:55 am
Alexander_D wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 5:04 am It's a really nice synth. Will be great if Steinberg will improve this one... but seems, that they don't do it with their old products...
Which improvements do you suggest?

A scalable interface. I refuse to install plugins without a scalable interface, no matter how good or intuitive they are.

cobaia · Post by **cobaia** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:46 pm

starflakeprj wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:18 pm
cobaia wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 9:55 am
Alexander_D wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 5:04 am It's a really nice synth. Will be great if Steinberg will improve this one... but seems, that they don't do it with their old products...
Which improvements do you suggest?
A scalable interface. I refuse to install plugins without a scalable interface, no matter how good or intuitive they are.

Um...

starflakeprj · Post by **starflakeprj** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:52 pm

cobaia wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:46 pm
starflakeprj wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:18 pm
cobaia wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 9:55 am
Alexander_D wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 5:04 am It's a really nice synth. Will be great if Steinberg will improve this one... but seems, that they don't do it with their old products...
Which improvements do you suggest?
A scalable interface. I refuse to install plugins without a scalable interface, no matter how good or intuitive they are.
Um...

Whaaat?! Since when? Has Padshop been updated as well with this? I really didn't know

cobaia · Post by **cobaia** » Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:58 pm

starflakeprj wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:52 pm
cobaia wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:46 pm
starflakeprj wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 1:18 pm
cobaia wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 9:55 am
Alexander_D wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2026 5:04 am It's a really nice synth. Will be great if Steinberg will improve this one... but seems, that they don't do it with their old products...
Which improvements do you suggest?
A scalable interface. I refuse to install plugins without a scalable interface, no matter how good or intuitive they are.
Um...
Whaaat?! Since when? Has Padshop been updated as well with this? I really didn't know

No idea about Padshop, but in Retrologue they introduced it some time ago. They still publish updates from time to time. It is not abandonware.

PS: According to Google Padshop has it as well now.

To adjust the user interface size in Padshop, locate the Functions menu or Options dropdown in the plug-in header. You can scale the GUI from -50% to +100% in 12.5% or 25% increments depending on your Padshop version.

Retrologue by Steinberg