AI disqualifies anyone as a musician! It's like playback.

[D-Fusion]

Shadow producers in 2026.
Human = Expensive but you get what you want out of a song.

AI = Cheap but you will waste a lot of time and credits in hope that it will make something that you like.

I do let AI make songs when i am bored but I won't renew my subscription when my subscription is over in October.

Reason for that is that Suno has met a wall on their latest v5.5 model so it plays the same sounds and chords and melody no matter what genre i use now.

So there is no variation there anymore and it outputs the same 2-3 songs over and over again.

Same chord progression, same sounds and over the top sound fx and other crap.
It also play in the same key progression in 95% of the songs now so it looks like the Algorithm is starting to go in circles and is slowly eating itself up.

I agree that AI tools like Suno often generate similar results, with tracks that start the same way or rely on the same chord progressions. But have you tried being more experimental with your prompts? Have you uploaded your own chord progressions and melodies and given Suno more specific instructions? From what you’re describing, it doesn’t sound like you have.

I have tried every trick in the book and it will still sound very simillar to the last song it made and the only difference is a different music genre.

I have also uploaded my own original songs to see what it will do with it

I subscribed for 1 year last october since it had more variation back then just to play with it when i am bored but now it seems to go more in circles than putting out something new and unique.

The heavy censoring of words in the last months does also kill the joy of using it so my Suno subscription will not be renewed when the year has passed.

[starflakeprj]

Shadow producers in 2026.
Human = Expensive but you get what you want out of a song.

AI = Cheap but you will waste a lot of time and credits in hope that it will make something that you like.

I do let AI make songs when i am bored but I won't renew my subscription when my subscription is over in October.

Reason for that is that Suno has met a wall on their latest v5.5 model so it plays the same sounds and chords and melody no matter what genre i use now.

So there is no variation there anymore and it outputs the same 2-3 songs over and over again.

Same chord progression, same sounds and over the top sound fx and other crap.
It also play in the same key progression in 95% of the songs now so it looks like the Algorithm is starting to go in circles and is slowly eating itself up.

I agree that AI tools like Suno often generate similar results, with tracks that start the same way or rely on the same chord progressions. But have you tried being more experimental with your prompts? Have you uploaded your own chord progressions and melodies and given Suno more specific instructions? From what you’re describing, it doesn’t sound like you have.

I have tried every trick in the book and it will still sound very simillar to the last song it made and the only difference is a different music genre.

I have also uploaded my own original songs to see what it will do with it

I subscribed for 1 year last october since it had more variation back then just to play with it when i am bored but now it seems to go more in circles than putting out something new and unique.

The heavy censoring of words in the last months does also kill the joy of using it so my Suno subscription will not be renewed when the year has passed.

Well, that hasn’t been my experience. With basic prompts that simply describe a genre, the results can definitely feel painfully repetitive. But I like experimenting with unusual combinations and styles that I suspect relatively few people have tried. When I do that, I tend to get much more variation and complexity.

The intros are a different matter, though. You can often recognize them immediately. They frequently begin with slow-attack chords in that very typical Suno style.

[TechHaus]

Odellay was made because a human named Beck jammed and improvised and two humans called the Dust Brothers chopped those up and made them into compositions.

I don't think the dust brothers could ask Suno to come up with fuzzed out alt country guitar riffs and arrived at those productions without Beck manipulating an instrument.

What are these mind-blowing genre combos that ai excels at?

[starflakeprj]

Odellay was made because a human named Beck jammed and improvised and two humans called the Dust Brothers chopped those up and made them into compositions.

I don't think the dust brothers could ask Suno to come up with fuzzed out alt country guitar riffs and arrived at those productions without Beck manipulating an instrument.

What are these mind-blowing genre combos that ai excels at?

I’m not sure whether your reply was directed at me, since I never used the phrase “mind-blowing.” Either way, here are a few genre fusions I’ve been experimenting with. These are only brief descriptions, not complete prompts.

Dark psytrance fused with neo-classical trance.
Psytrance infused with late-Classical and early-Romantic influences.
Experimental dark folk-horror trailer music.
Cinematic darkwave and ambient trailer music.
Swedish cinematic folk music with a horror-inspired atmosphere.
Swedish polska folk music blended with Finnish tango.
Dubstep fused with Swedish folk music.

[Seafire Mk2]

Somebody needs to turn the whole internet off.

[Innermost]

Somebody needs to turn the whole internet off.

That's not the first time I think I see you writing something like that if I remember well, I think you posted something a bit similar on my thread this weekend.
Then I am wondering, why do you think we should turn whole the internet off?

[Seafire Mk2]

It's the most abhorrent thing ever invented

[Innermost]

It's the most abhorrent thing ever invented

Then I am sorry to be a bit provocative but... Why are you using it to speak with us?

[enroe]

...
Either way, here are a few genre fusions I’ve been experimenting with.
These are only brief descriptions, not complete prompts.

Dark psytrance fused with neo-classical trance.
Psytrance infused with late-Classical and early-Romantic influences.
Experimental dark folk-horror trailer music.
Cinematic darkwave and ambient trailer music.
Swedish cinematic folk music with a horror-inspired atmosphere.
Swedish polska folk music blended with Finnish tango.
Dubstep fused with Swedish folk music.

Yes, the interplay and combination of different genres could
work wonders—provided one actually manages to create,
invent, and even produce "something." And the results
could be truly astonishing!

== Three suggestions ==:

Goat Tarnce ---- with ----- Elevator music

Brimborial Tomb Metal ---- with ----- Avant Garde Wolverine

Ambient Death Polka ---- with ----- Lounge Throat-Singing

[Seafire Mk2]

It's the most abhorrent thing ever invented

Then I am sorry to be a bit provocative but... Why are you using it to speak with us?

I'm typing, not speaking. Big difference.

[Innermost]

Then why are you using that to type what you think with us?
On my side I use that, coz even if I hate what it became, all the capitalist, neo liberale, fake news side, AI which is the concept of prívate companies which give access to conversational agents which are more influent than the better influent human, I am happy to discuss with someone like you, that I don't know, and with whom I can share and learn things. Far from being perfect, but on the same time we have a place where we can speak all together, when in the past they had absolutly nothing to share ideas at such a scale.

[Seafire Mk2]

Been there from day 1, its like heroin.

Doesn't meant I think everyone should do it.

The world would be a better place without the internet

[starflakeprj]

== Three suggestions ==:

Goat Tarnce ---- with ----- Elevator music

Brimborial Tomb Metal ---- with ----- Avant Garde Wolverine

Ambient Death Polka ---- with ----- Lounge Throat-Singing

Are you mocking me?

[Innermost]

Been there from day 1, its like heroin.

Doesn't meant I think everyone should do it.

The world would be a better place without the internet

In my opinion world had been a better place until human civilisation. My heart belongs to the prehistoric side of myself. (I visited Prehistoric cave some years ago, that was such an experience man... Imagining our ancestors making these paintings one kilometer under the mountain... Just amazing. Seriously.)
And you? When would you have like to live?

[BONES]

I'd like to be around after its all over, once we've completely f**ked the planet, just so I can laugh at it all.

I agree that AI tools like Suno often generate similar results, with tracks that start the same way or rely on the same chord progressions.

The same is true of a lot of artists, especially successful ones, so it's possible that's a trait AI has picked up through its training.

But have you tried being more experimental with your prompts? Have you uploaded your own chord progressions and melodies and given Suno more specific instructions? From what you’re describing, it doesn’t sound like you have.

What would be the point? If you are going to give it that much detail, why not finish it yourself? You could give it that stuff for reference but from my experience it's not going to take much notice of it.

I would prefer an AI tune that makes me feel being a part of this world, than a human song that makes me feel alone in the universe.
That's what is music.

Speak for yourself. That's pretty much the opposite to what I look for in the music I connect with. I connect with music that questions those things and the their validity.

YES! especially if you don't want your music sounding like an "Outkast type beat" or a generic "Katy Perry/Olivia Rodrigo fusion song"

That is absolutely hilarious coming from you.

Things like Suno is more of a entertaining money pit where the Suno company gets filthy rich and the subscribers loose money in the end.

How much do you think a Suno subscription costs? I doubt anyone's getting rich.

Oh yes, without creating any plus value in the end.
Productivity is not only creating an amount of something. It's equally how many value in people's life you create with. If you create a very large amount of something but that the this thing has no value for others then your productivity is NULL or even worst, loss-making.

That describes the musical endeavours of at least 99% of people on KVR, so it's hardly unique to AI.

What if we could product Ferrari with an AI and a 3D printer?
Suno is the Ferrari 3D printer.

I'm sure in Pininfarina was doing the prompting, the 3D printer would make a car worthy of the Ferrari badge. Because you're right, AI is like a 3D printer, it can only do as well as the ideas it is fed by idiot humans.

I have tried every trick in the book and it will still sound very simillar to the last song it made and the only difference is a different music genre.

Well you must be really bad at prompting because we've managed to produce an album of very different songs within our own genre. Tempos ranging from 90bpm to 142bpm with a lot of variety in the arrangements and instrumentation. There are certain traits that seem to pop up a few times but the same is true of any of our albums, it helps tie the songs together into a cohesive whole.