A free Roland Super JX / MKS-70 / JX-8P emulation - This is EightyTen!

[audiojunkie]

Is it free or not? A “free beta” is not free, except for the developer who gets a free beta team.

The beta does not cost anything for you to try.

[Danilo Villanova]

Is it free or not? A “free beta” is not free, except for the developer who gets a free beta team.

The beta does not cost anything for you to try.

Is it a free synth or not?

[jamcat]

LICENSING

This plugin is a free beta. You can support its development using the pay-what-you-want option on Gumroad. Any contribution of $10 or more grants you a lifetime license, should future releases become paid. Note that older versions may stop working once newer ones are released.

How exactly will older versions stop working once newer ones are released?
Do your plugins phone home?

[Danilo Villanova]

So it’s not free. I find it incredibly trashy to promote a plugin in this manner. Same as the one claiming to be better than other company.

[Morphoice]

Pardon the question, but what does NI SuperStarSaw — a commercial €99 plugin from one of the industry's biggest players — have to do with a Roland MKS-70 / Super-JX emulation? On what basis is the comparison even being drawn here?

I'm a solo developer doing this alongside a full-time day job, in my spare time. I don't think asking for a $10 optional donation is something I need to justify against a €99 product from a multinational corporation. They're not even the same kind of instrument.

If you prefer the SuperStarSaw, by all means — enjoy it. It's a great plugin from a great company. But comparing it to a free (with optional support) emulation of a completely different synth seems like comparing apples to oranges. Let's keep things in perspective.

[Morphoice]

LICENSING

This plugin is a free beta. You can support its development using the pay-what-you-want option on Gumroad. Any contribution of $10 or more grants you a lifetime license, should future releases become paid. Note that older versions may stop working once newer ones are released.

How exactly will older versions stop working once newer ones are released?
Do your plugins phone home?

I will personally come to your home, deinstall it from your PC, drink all the beer from your fridge, and leave without so much as a 'how do you do!', then go party with those who don't ask resentful questions — but are actually thankful for what is given to them to make great music. D'uh!

[jamcat]

LICENSING

This plugin is a free beta. You can support its development using the pay-what-you-want option on Gumroad. Any contribution of $10 or more grants you a lifetime license, should future releases become paid. Note that older versions may stop working once newer ones are released.

How exactly will older versions stop working once newer ones are released?
Do your plugins phone home?

I will personally come to your home, deinstall it from your PC, drink all the beer from your fridge, and leave without so much as a 'how do you do!', then go party with those who don't ask resentful questions — but are actually thankful for what is given to them to make great music. D'uh!

Probably not the best way to answer this question on KVR.

[Morphoice]

So it’s not free. I find it incredibly trashy to promote a plugin in this manner. Same as the one claiming to be better than other company.

You're wrong here. And it is free. You can clearly see that you can download and use it for free, right? The optional $10 donation is exactly that: optional. The terms are clearly stated. There's nothing 'trashy' about transparency.

I also never claimed anything was 'better than' — I asked a question: does it sound better? Given that the other company's product is over 14 years old, not circuit-accurate, and models a measurably different chorus topology altogether, I think it's a valid question. It wasn't intended to insult anyone — I don't care about the politics, I care about the sound.

But if you'd rather buy a tanh() function for 129 quid because it carries the name of a big British console maker, then by all means — do that. I'll keep making my plugins how I like them. I'm not forcing you to use them.

[Morphoice]

LICENSING

This plugin is a free beta. You can support its development using the pay-what-you-want option on Gumroad. Any contribution of $10 or more grants you a lifetime license, should future releases become paid. Note that older versions may stop working once newer ones are released.

How exactly will older versions stop working once newer ones are released?
Do your plugins phone home?

I will personally come to your home, deinstall it from your PC, drink all the beer from your fridge, and leave without so much as a 'how do you do!', then go party with those who don't ask resentful questions — but are actually thankful for what is given to them to make great music. D'uh!

Probably not the best way to answer this question on KVR.

Get a sense of humor It's free ))

[El°HYM]

Thank you for shoving out another masterpiece of bit accurate circuit modeled goodness to the world, within only 4 days. Also trying to let your beta - testers pay for a beta - trial, is another really generous idea. Oh no, its 'free'... forgot.

With the Jupiter-8 emulation nearing the finish line, a JX-10 just came in for repair — which feels like it could be the next project. Given what I've learned building the bi-timbral Jupiter, how would you all feel about a Super JX emulation? Working title: EightyTen.

[jamcat]

LICENSING

This plugin is a free beta. You can support its development using the pay-what-you-want option on Gumroad. Any contribution of $10 or more grants you a lifetime license, should future releases become paid. Note that older versions may stop working once newer ones are released.

How exactly will older versions stop working once newer ones are released?
Do your plugins phone home?

I will personally come to your home, deinstall it from your PC, drink all the beer from your fridge, and leave without so much as a 'how do you do!', then go party with those who don't ask resentful questions — but are actually thankful for what is given to them to make great music. D'uh!

Probably not the best way to answer this question on KVR.

Get a sense of humor It's free ))

Do your plugins phone home? Yes or no?
It’s a simple question, and people have a right to know.

Dodging the question isn’t my idea of “transparency.”

[chris-mm]

Glad to see a "double" JX-8 plugin. Finally!
And the embedded effects are also a nice upgrade over the original.

I never understood why other developers modelled the JX-8P but did not go one step further to mimic the JX-10/MKS-70 bi-timbral possibilities.

Sounds really very very nice in my ears! Can't wait to import my sysex patches.

Many thanks so far for your hard work and the free beta.
At least for me, 10 bucks for a final version with sysex import seems to be a real bargain.

[Morphoice]

LICENSING

This plugin is a free beta. You can support its development using the pay-what-you-want option on Gumroad. Any contribution of $10 or more grants you a lifetime license, should future releases become paid. Note that older versions may stop working once newer ones are released.

How exactly will older versions stop working once newer ones are released?
Do your plugins phone home?

I will personally come to your home, deinstall it from your PC, drink all the beer from your fridge, and leave without so much as a 'how do you do!', then go party with those who don't ask resentful questions — but are actually thankful for what is given to them to make great music. D'uh!

Probably not the best way to answer this question on KVR.

Get a sense of humor It's free ))

Do your plugins phone home? Yes or no?
It’s a simple question, and people have a right to know.

Dodging the question isn’t my idea of “transparency.”

I am not dodging your question. I simply have a day job and am not monitoring this forum 24/7.

And no, EightyTen doesn't 'phone home' in the way you're implying to throw shade. There's no data harvesting, no tracking, no spying on your conversations with your girlfriend, no reading your diary, no reporting back on your filter cutoff habits, and definitely no secret plot to steal your cat's identity.

Like virtually every piece of software you've ever used, it may check for the availability of updates and display the latest available version to you — that's an industry standard and doesn't need justification. That's it.

As for the 'may stop working' line — that simply means I can't guarantee eternal compatibility with future OS or DAW updates, and I'm not legally liable if something stops working because you fail to update. Just like PG-8X stopped working when DAWs moved to 64-bit. It doesn't self-destruct, this isn't the movies. It just means technology moves on, and I'm not signing up for lifetime support on a free plugin — especially not for users who refuse to update and then expect the old version to remain bug-free forever. That's all.

It's bewildering to me that instead of assuming the obvious — just as with every other piece of software you've happily thrown money at without complaining in a forum — my work gets framed as something shady. I'd rather you move on and use somebody else's product if that's how you feel about a new dev contributing his work for free. I am seriously questioning whether all this is even worth it. For this kind of headache, there should be a mighty fine paycheck at the end of the month!

[Morphoice]

Thank you for shoving out another masterpiece of bit accurate circuit modeled goodness to the world, within only 4 days. Also trying to let your beta - testers pay for a beta - trial, is another really generous idea. Oh no, its 'free'... forgot.

With the Jupiter-8 emulation nearing the finish line, a JX-10 just came in for repair — which feels like it could be the next project. Given what I've learned building the bi-timbral Jupiter, how would you all feel about a Super JX emulation? Working title: EightyTen.

The core DSP of this plugin started about 2–3 years ago. Read the initial post. If finishing up a quick GUI to demo it takes you more than a couple of all-nighters, then you probably shouldn't be coding.

As for 'beta-testers paying' — you can download it for free right now. The optional $10 donation grants a lifetime license should the model ever change. That's not 'paying for a beta.' That's supporting years of work with a completely optional token of appreciation.

But hey — if you'd rather mock than actually try it, that's your loss. The plugin speaks for itself. And so far there isn't much testing going on, just a lot of pointless mocking. So joke's on you )

[bibz1st]

Jeez you guys, wtf is wrong with you, get a grip, if you dont like the way something is worded, walk on by and leave him to get on with his thing.