What do you think: Which DAW will the safest to resist all of this AI nonsense creeping slowly in?

[jlgrimes11]

It is somewhat inevitable.


I'd think maybe a slower developed DAW.

I used to think Reason but with LANDR owning it, maybe not.


I think any DAW will allow you to decide whether you want to use AI or not.

I think there are fine lines as well. Something that is creating melodies/harmonies/drums/entire compositions for you is one thing.

Something helping organize your sample library or creating tutorials on using program is another thing.

[ghettosynth]

The answer is Reaper. The answer is always Reaper.

[VOODOO U]

Something helping organize your sample library or creating tutorials on using program is another thing.

Something that responds to *all* actions with verbal communication so mouse and QWERTY is optional.

-open songs folder
-load "Let Me Love You Forever and Ever and Ever You Bitch (my darling)
-add audio track and set to 1 input
-arm
-go to position 00:01:14
-1 bar count in and record
-save
-play recorded clip, solo
*Or* solo track, play recorded clip
-add *plugin name* effect
Etc etc....

A.I. is a wonderful thing if you just let it in. It's not a vampire for chrissake.

[Munin]

A lot of these debates could be avoided by being more specific about the use of the term "generative AI".

[Gewan]

I'm sticking with Orion pro 7.62

No way that got any AI interference.....I think..

[Trancit]

A lot of these debates could be avoided by being more specific about the use of the term "generative AI".

What I did, didn´t I??
From my initial post:

As the title says...

I am not willing anymore to support any BS developement of any AI generative nonsense creeping into DAWs more and more and am looking for a safe place for a human wanting to create music the "human way"...

[ksandvik]

Something helping organize your sample library or creating tutorials on using program is another thing.

Something that responds to *all* actions with verbal communication so mouse and QWERTY is optional.

-open songs folder
-load "Let Me Love You Forever and Ever and Ever You Bitch (my darling)
-add audio track and set to 1 input
-arm
-go to position 00:01:14
-1 bar count in and record
-save
-play recorded clip, solo
*Or* solo track, play recorded clip
-add *plugin name* effect
Etc etc....

A.I. is a wonderful thing if you just let it in. It's not a vampire for chrissake.

That's voice recognition, I think we talk about AI generating music like serving pizzas ordered.

[Tracewidth]

No way will CubeAss cave! Steinbuttocks forever.

[VOODOO U]

Something helping organize your sample library or creating tutorials on using program is another thing.

Something that responds to *all* actions with verbal communication so mouse and QWERTY is optional.

-open songs folder
-load "Let Me Love You Forever and Ever and Ever You Bitch (my darling)
-add audio track and set to 1 input
-arm
-go to position 00:01:14
-1 bar count in and record
-save
-play recorded clip, solo
*Or* solo track, play recorded clip
-add *plugin name* effect
Etc etc....

A.I. is a wonderful thing if you just let it in. It's not a vampire for chrissake.

That's voice recognition, I think we talk about AI generating music like serving pizzas ordered.

I don't see what any of that has to do with vampires.
Speaking of has anyone seen the vampire film Lost Boys?
This guy is in the movie. He's a musician now.

[skyscape]

Renoise, and probably Reaper. The super popular DAWs will no doubt hop on the AI hype train.

[VOODOO U]

A.I. is not hype. And I can see Renoise utilizing A.I.

[ghettosynth]

A.I. is not hype. And I can see Renoise utilizing A.I.

Yes. In a few years everyone here will wonder how they ever got along without it. I swear I can't recall the last time I saw such limited vision from a group that labels themselves as creative. My argument for Reaper avoiding it is more about the status of being self-contained and almost anti-business/anti-online always. I find it unlikely that Cockos will attach features to models not available locally. However, as hardware changes, you can expect AI to find its way into the smallest of applications. Any kind of contextual search may want to infer intent from your words and then predict the most likely "thing" that you want. Do you want the thing that you came close to spelling, or, something related that you forgot the name of? This will creep in when small models become a standard feature in the distro, and they will.

What we are watching, in real time, is audio production becoming ham radio.

[VOODOO U]

Yes. In a few years everyone here will wonder how they ever got along without it.

That's definitely imminent. They may avoid using it to replace instrument playing but they'll use it for other things. At this point anyone making anti - A.I. threads are just flattering themselves. It's redundant and stupid.

[rod_zero]

Ableton is still owned in par by its founders, and I think that if they go for the vision stated in this video Ableton would be one of the safest DAW companies to be invested as a user.

[havran]

Reaper and Orion.