Stylus RMX, a legacy product from 2004, still 400$

[yhvh]

never used stylus so i’m not suggesting this as a replacement necessarily but since yall were discussing multiple loop workflows for break beats, audiomodern loopmix is cheap and is designed for just that. might be worth looking at if you want to save a few bucks

[Paul_Pulsonix]

My app/plugin supports rex files. What do you need exactly ? Right now I have parameterlocks and different outputs option per slice. www.beatforge.nl

[noiseboyuk]

I predict they will release a pretty kick-ass rhythm product with custom multi sampled and electronic drum kits and tons of loops, following on from Stylus RMX having loop mode and kit mode. An everything drum solution which I’m betting will sound fantastic. Whether it will be this decade or not you can never know. I’m shocked how long they’ve taken.

I've been saying for - oh, 15 years - that the ultimate rhythm plugin still doesn't exist. Maybe this is how long it takes to build it.

I still love Stylus and use it all the time in media work. It's so fast and fun to get something unique sounding. I always liken it to cookery more than conventional beat programming and I love that. But obviously the core library was built in the 1930s and there's not even search bar in the browser. I'd have taken New and Improved 10 years ago over Ultimate But Doesn't Exist.

There was no real reason to make Omni 3 imo, beyond I guess it is a guaranteed money-spinner. While O3 does have some great new features it also has a fair amount of headaches. Omni 2 was an outstanding mature product - It wasn't screaming out for a new version or successor in the way Stylus RMX obviously is.

[Old Norse]

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[Echoes in the Attic]

I predict they will release a pretty kick-ass rhythm product with custom multi sampled and electronic drum kits and tons of loops, following on from Stylus RMX having loop mode and kit mode. An everything drum solution which I’m betting will sound fantastic. Whether it will be this decade or not you can never know. I’m shocked how long they’ve taken.

I've been saying for - oh, 15 years - that the ultimate rhythm plugin still doesn't exist. Maybe this is how long it takes to build it.

I still love Stylus and use it all the time in media work. It's so fast and fun to get something unique sounding. I always liken it to cookery more than conventional beat programming and I love that. But obviously the core library was built in the 1930s and there's not even search bar in the browser. I'd have taken New and Improved 10 years ago over Ultimate But Doesn't Exist.

There was no real reason to make Omni 3 imo, beyond I guess it is a guaranteed money-spinner. While O3 does have some great new features it also has a fair amount of headaches. Omni 2 was an outstanding mature product - It wasn't screaming out for a new version or successor in the way Stylus RMX obviously is.

Yeah but omni is the only actively (every decade or so) updated product. RMX is deprecated so I don’t even think they will release an update to it, it will be a whole new instrument. Rhythmverse or what have you. I’m glad omni 3 exists though.

[enCiphered]

I agree. Omni 3 is a solid update but it wasn't the product that needed Spectrasonics' attention the most. Apart from Mutation.. which feels unfinished (parameter locking, exclusion groups, weighted randomization etc. all important options are missing).

What we're still waiting for isn't another drum plugin with a bigger sample library. Toontrack, BFD and others already have that covered. The real opportunity is to rethink rhythm creation itself.
Imagine an instrument that understands musical intention instead of making you browse endless folders of samples and MIDI files. Instead of searching for "Epic Taiko 27", you describe the sound or role you want: massive cinematic ensemble, unstable mechanical pulse, organic tribal groove. The engine generates it from a combination of synthesis, modelling and intelligent processing, with every aspect remaining editable.

The same should apply to grooves. Not random pattern generation but an engine that understands rhythm structurally, creating believable variations, fills, evolving performances and transformations while preserving the musical identity. Also, a system that understands rhythm on a structural level. For example:

Replace the entire kit while preserving the musical identity.
Make the groove 30% more aggressive without changing the pattern.
Turn an acoustic groove into industrial machinery while keeping the same feel.
Create eight believable variations that all sound like the same drummer.
Increase complexity only on off-beats.
Generate fills that are derived from the existing groove rather than picked from a library.
Evolve a groove over four minutes without obvious repetition.
Let every lane influence every other lane instead of treating kick, snare and hats as isolated tracks.

I think AI has an inevitable role to play here.

[nusound mind]

Yeah but omni is the only actively (every decade or so) updated product. RMX is deprecated so I don’t even think they will release an update to it, it will be a whole new instrument. Rhythmverse or what have you. I’m glad omni 3 exists though.

Stylus was updated a few months ago? Or so. Like 3 updates roughly in the last year which included faster loading, which was huge for me b/c I have a ton of user libraries installed; and slighlty newer/ sharper fonts on some of gui headers.

I hope they do release a Stylus 2 though, don't get me wrong.

[nusound mind]

My app/plugin supports rex files. What do you need exactly ? Right now I have parameterlocks and different outputs option per slice. www.beatforge.nl

I have a license for Beatforge and would def. recommend it. The Rex functionality works great, you can drag&drop midi and edit it as stepped up notes per slice, very similar to Stylus and it offers a lot else besides.

[Echoes in the Attic]

Yeah but omni is the only actively (every decade or so) updated product. RMX is deprecated so I don’t even think they will release an update to it, it will be a whole new instrument. Rhythmverse or what have you. I’m glad omni 3 exists though.

Stylus was updated a few months ago? Or so. Like 3 updates roughly in the last year which included faster loading, which was huge for me b/c I have a ton of user libraries installed; and slighlty newer/ sharper fonts on some of gui headers.

I hope they do release a Stylus 2 though, don't get me wrong.

Oh yeah I guess it’s still actively updated but not developed with new features, hence the “Legacy” category. It is cool they have kept it usable though (resizing and compatibility etc)