My GForce Prophet-5 preset converter for Prophet-5 rev 4 SysEx presets
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- KVRist
- 461 posts since 15 Oct, 2001 from Santa Fe, NM
I used Claude Code to create a converter for Prophet-5 hardware presets. Works pretty well but not perfectly. A few presets have required some pitch or pulse width settings changes. You can set the Collection and Author names for the converted presets. I don't really know what I'm doing, so I welcome suggestions! This is just an html file that opens in a browser.
Since we're big boys and girls here I went ahead and added the "alpha version" Repro-5 presets to GForce Prophet-5 conversion to this for us to play with. New version attached:
Since we're big boys and girls here I went ahead and added the "alpha version" Repro-5 presets to GForce Prophet-5 conversion to this for us to play with. New version attached:
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Last edited by abernathy on Mon Jul 20, 2026 2:15 am, edited 6 times in total.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 461 posts since 15 Oct, 2001 from Santa Fe, NM
Here are the Prophet-5 OG factory presets I converted. 3 banks including the first bank that is already included with GForce Prophet-5, for comparison.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 461 posts since 15 Oct, 2001 from Santa Fe, NM
Just realized I need to update this converter to deal with stacks and splits... definitely a work in progress! OK, it's now updated. I used it to convert the INHALT-Stack-and-Split-Programs.syx bank on Sequential's site and it seems to work, but I don't have the hardware to compare it.
- KVRAF
- 2343 posts since 2 Jul, 2007
Hi,awesome work. where do we find the html file ?
INTERFACE: RME ADI-2/4 Pro/Antelope Orion Studio Synergy Core/BAE 1073 MPF Dual/Heritage Audio Successor+SYMPH EQ
SYNTHS: Arturia Polybrute 12/Roland Jupiter X + Juno X/Yamaha Montage M/Yamaha KX88
PEDALS: Chase Bliss Blooper + Mood MK II
SYNTHS: Arturia Polybrute 12/Roland Jupiter X + Juno X/Yamaha Montage M/Yamaha KX88
PEDALS: Chase Bliss Blooper + Mood MK II
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12505 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Nice! I've spent a lot of time going down that particular rabbit hole with RePro-5, which adds some extra challenges. Looking forward to trying this out!
I've got a ton of measurements and test tools for things like LFO times, envelope times, etc., and have measured just about everything on the hardware, RePro, and GForce for some things. If there's anything I can help out with, let me know!
I've got a ton of measurements and test tools for things like LFO times, envelope times, etc., and have measured just about everything on the hardware, RePro, and GForce for some things. If there's anything I can help out with, let me know!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 461 posts since 15 Oct, 2001 from Santa Fe, NM
Oops. It's in the first post now. I had the wrong file attached!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 461 posts since 15 Oct, 2001 from Santa Fe, NM
Try the converter when you can. You might notice some consistent issues with conversions that I can tell Claude about. Out of the 3 factory banks that I attached in the second post, there were 5 or so presets where I had to turn off pulse width, or change OSC settings to get them in tune, but couldn't find a pattern.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 1:29 am Nice! I've spent a lot of time going down that particular rabbit hole with RePro-5, which adds some extra challenges. Looking forward to trying this out!
I've got a ton of measurements and test tools for things like LFO times, envelope times, etc., and have measured just about everything on the hardware, RePro, and GForce for some things. If there's anything I can help out with, let me know!
After decent success with this converter, I tried doing a Repro-5 to GForce Prophet-5 converter and it didn't go as well. I'll work on it some more, but I think that conversion is much trickier.
- KVRAF
- 2343 posts since 2 Jul, 2007
abernathy, Amazing jobabernathy wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 1:39 amOops. It's in the first post now. I had the wrong file attached!
INTERFACE: RME ADI-2/4 Pro/Antelope Orion Studio Synergy Core/BAE 1073 MPF Dual/Heritage Audio Successor+SYMPH EQ
SYNTHS: Arturia Polybrute 12/Roland Jupiter X + Juno X/Yamaha Montage M/Yamaha KX88
PEDALS: Chase Bliss Blooper + Mood MK II
SYNTHS: Arturia Polybrute 12/Roland Jupiter X + Juno X/Yamaha Montage M/Yamaha KX88
PEDALS: Chase Bliss Blooper + Mood MK II
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 461 posts since 15 Oct, 2001 from Santa Fe, NM
I remember folks saying that GForce probably didn't include a hardware preset import option because it was too difficult with the differences in architecture. And maybe that's what I'm running into where some presets are out of tune, or transposed weirdly. Or maybe we'll narrow down where the problem is. Claude worked awfully hard helping me with this...
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 461 posts since 15 Oct, 2001 from Santa Fe, NM
I went ahead and added the rough Repro-5 conversion to this tool. Hopefully I'll upload an improved version of these conversions soon, with everyone's help.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 1:29 am Nice! I've spent a lot of time going down that particular rabbit hole with RePro-5, which adds some extra challenges. Looking forward to trying this out!
I've got a ton of measurements and test tools for things like LFO times, envelope times, etc., and have measured just about everything on the hardware, RePro, and GForce for some things. If there's anything I can help out with, let me know!
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12505 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
I've had Prophet Sysex to RePro-5 conversion going for a while now.
See my thread on the U-he forum for details. I measured against my hardware Prophet and did my best to match it to the software. Was actually about to post a new build that fixes and improves upon a bunch of stuff when I saw this. Mine does a lot of stuff, it doesn't just translate the Sysex to RePro values, it actually translates the measured hardware values to RePro measurements. Example: I measured the filter cutoff frequencies for the various filters and created lookup tables. Did the same for the ADSR's, envelope depth, etc. Pretty much anything you can measure, I've got going in my own. I even do some "smart volume adjustment" and tagging. It's been weeks of self-oscillation test tones, writing measurement scripts, and fine-tuning, then even making some creative choices to try to dial things in better (like I couldn't get the Unisawyer patch to quite match up until I assigned MM3 to Filter Decay, mdoulated by Voice Index, for extra slop).
The thread is here - a new build will be up shortly with a week's worth of improvements:
viewtopic.php?t=631253
The thread is here - a new build will be up shortly with a week's worth of improvements:
viewtopic.php?t=631253
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12505 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
The tuning may be this:abernathy wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 2:05 am I remember folks saying that GForce probably didn't include a hardware preset import option because it was too difficult with the differences in architecture. And maybe that's what I'm running into where some presets are out of tune, or transposed weirdly. Or maybe we'll narrow down where the problem is. Claude worked awfully hard helping me with this...
The hardware sysex for the Frequency knobs goes up to 120, but the highest note is C4, and I believe that value is 96. So values from 97 to 120 exist in the sysex, but they still play a C4. If your tuning scaling isn't aware of that, it could cause mapping issues with the frequency knobs.
Additional tuning related items: there are pitches like B0 and B0+ (this is how they appear on the hardware panel and SoundTower editor). The + variants have no change to the base pitch at all. They're literally the same base frequency. Don't let Claude assume that they're like half-semitones or something; they're not. There's no difference between B0 and B0+ or E2 and E2+, etc.
The Fine Tune parameter, at least in Soundtower, goes from -60 to +60. But it's not really bipolar. -60 is no fine tuning. +60 is 1 semitone sharp. 0 is about a half-semitone sharp. It's 100% unipolar.
If you account for those 3 things in the sysex conversion to the software, you'll likely fix any tuning issues.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 461 posts since 15 Oct, 2001 from Santa Fe, NM
Thanks! I will look into all this.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 2:39 amThe tuning may be this:abernathy wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2026 2:05 am I remember folks saying that GForce probably didn't include a hardware preset import option because it was too difficult with the differences in architecture. And maybe that's what I'm running into where some presets are out of tune, or transposed weirdly. Or maybe we'll narrow down where the problem is. Claude worked awfully hard helping me with this...
The hardware sysex for the Frequency knobs goes up to 120, but the highest note is C4, and I believe that value is 96. So values from 97 to 120 exist in the sysex, but they still play a C4. If your tuning scaling isn't aware of that, it could cause mapping issues with the frequency knobs.
Additional tuning related items: there are pitches like B0 and B0+ (this is how they appear on the hardware panel and SoundTower editor). The + variants have no change to the base pitch at all. They're literally the same base frequency. Don't let Claude assume that they're like half-semitones or something; they're not. There's no difference between B0 and B0+ or E2 and E2+, etc.
The Fine Tune parameter, at least in Soundtower, goes from -60 to +60. But it's not really bipolar. -60 is no fine tuning. +60 is 1 semitone sharp. 0 is about a half-semitone sharp. It's 100% unipolar.
If you account for those 3 things in the sysex conversion to the software, you'll likely fix any tuning issues.
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12505 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Dumb question, and it's late so maybe I'm just at the "try it again in the morning" phase of the evening, but after I convert the patches, then bring them into the GForce\Prophet 5\User Patches\ folder, how do I get them to appear in the browser?
I'm not seeing anything in the plugin that I didn't create myself.
I'm not seeing anything in the plugin that I didn't create myself.
- KVRAF
- 2343 posts since 2 Jul, 2007
go to the browser - left side of UI then > you'll see a folder then the word Collection - > right side of that hit the refresh button.
INTERFACE: RME ADI-2/4 Pro/Antelope Orion Studio Synergy Core/BAE 1073 MPF Dual/Heritage Audio Successor+SYMPH EQ
SYNTHS: Arturia Polybrute 12/Roland Jupiter X + Juno X/Yamaha Montage M/Yamaha KX88
PEDALS: Chase Bliss Blooper + Mood MK II
SYNTHS: Arturia Polybrute 12/Roland Jupiter X + Juno X/Yamaha Montage M/Yamaha KX88
PEDALS: Chase Bliss Blooper + Mood MK II
