I just ordered my first electric guitar

[lfm]

A roller nut because its a smooth rolling piece will allow for slippage back and then return to a zero point for the string at the nut. Hence increased tuning stability. This was before the locking nut. Why this and the later LRS roller nut never became mainstream is beyond me. I think it's far more effective than a locking nut.

I think this goes for saddles in the bridge as well, why not rollers?
- I used Schaller in a guitar as I remember

I payed more attention to nut since Bukovac mention it so often being the main reason for tuning instability. So for 3+3 tuners I make more of V shape to minimize amount of wall that string rest on sideways. The standard straight slot seems utterly wrong as an idea.

Also bought something to try other than graphite scrapings in nut slot
- Gewa Teflon Sattelpulver
- MusicNomad MusicNomad TUNE-IT (MN106) - String Instrument Lub
But have not tried it yet.

But over all I like the idea of fret zero, why a nut at all?
- you need to guide sideways, but to rest on?
- you have all these materials, bone, tusq and what not

Always like the sound with capo, and fret zero might be part of resting on solid metal?
- more solid contact with guitar neck it seems to me
https://www.guitarinsideout.com/zero-fret-guide/

Always find something to nerd around with. That's me...

[tapper mike]

Thanks for that. I'd forgotten all about zero fret though it did capture my imagination back in the 70's. I did have roller saddles on a guitar in the distant past. I've forgotten which guitar having had many through the years.

I do like the idea of cam rollers for trem systems. Most notably the Ric Toone replacement tremolo

[mountainmaster]

A good deal with the whole Hendix thing was about slippage and unequal return at the nut. The string would slip back and not return.
Wilkinson resolve all this with a roller nut. A roller nut because its a smooth rolling piece will allow for slippage back and then return to a zero point for the string at the nut. Hence increased tuning stability. This was before the locking nut. Why this and the later LRS roller nut never became mainstream is beyond me. I think it's far more effective than a locking nut.

For me the main purpose of a locking nut was to prevent the strings from sliding off the nut entirely during extreme dive bombs. Since I don't do those anymore I have removed the nut locks from my Ibanez 540R. In spite of the Floyd Rose this guitar stays in tune remarkably well.

[tapper mike]

A good deal with the whole Hendix thing was about slippage and unequal return at the nut. The string would slip back and not return.
Wilkinson resolve all this with a roller nut. A roller nut because its a smooth rolling piece will allow for slippage back and then return to a zero point for the string at the nut. Hence increased tuning stability. This was before the locking nut. Why this and the later LRS roller nut never became mainstream is beyond me. I think it's far more effective than a locking nut.

For me the main purpose of a locking nut was to prevent the strings from sliding off the nut entirely during extreme dive bombs. Since I don't do those anymore I have removed the nut locks from my Ibanez 540R. In spite of the Floyd Rose this guitar stays in tune remarkably well.

Ibanez were known for having a flatter radius which would eliminate a lot of issues with the string loosening up and shifting when bending down. But it also created other issues when diveboming especially with no string tree. Hence the locking nut being a good idea. I always felt that headless guitars and locking nuts changed the character of the tone. I've had both. Also when using a locking nut they could get away with less stable tuning gears.

Neck radii is always personal. A flatter neck is better for sweeps and chordal capo type playing and some (not me) prefer it when string bending. While I can tolerate some rakes my ears don't like guitar sweeping. Harp Glissando's always sound more magical to me


As well as piano runs which dovetail notes with overlap also known as sweeps


Part of the magic comes from inexact flowing timing rather than strict timing and overlapping of notes.

[Cuauhtli]

I was expecting to hear If you should go skating on the thin ice of modern life... at the beginning of that piano bit.

[mystran]

For me the main purpose of a locking nut was to prevent the strings from sliding off the nut entirely during extreme dive bombs. Since I don't do those anymore I have removed the nut locks from my Ibanez 540R. In spite of the Floyd Rose this guitar stays in tune remarkably well.

Locking nut is nice in terms of not having to pull the excess string past the nut when you bend though. Since the floating bridge itself kinda has the opposite effect of making you bend more. This is kinda the main reason I like to lock my nut even if I wasn't going to even attach the whammy.