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wagtunes wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 3:53 pm Great. So what's next? What do I do with all this? Where does the creative process come in. I can think of maybe a few things but I'd like your take on it.

I'm keeping an open mind to be inspired.

So inspire me.
No, and this is important. That's not my job. I don't care what you use or don't use. I don't care how you create or what tools matter to you. I'm not a purist or an evangelist and if you're reading me that way then you're missing my message. When I first encountered Suno the use cases were obvious to me, as were the limitations regarding both creativity and artifact quality. I don't mean that I thought about it for a while and it became obvious, I mean that they were blindingly obvious.

Perhaps that is a function of my own path, what I've studied, what I've created, who knows. However, just as I refuse to be a Linux evangelist or a DAW evangelist, I refuse to be an AI evangelist. I don't think that people should use it. The less that you and everyone else uses it, the better chance that there is for RAM prices to come back down to sanity and the better chance there is that I can buy more hardware at sane prices to use even more local AI as a work and creativity partner. Ok, that's tongue in cheek for those not following at home, RAM prices are not coming down for a while whether individuals use it or not.

Ok, I used to be a Native Instruments evangelist, not any more. I'm still a Urs Heckman evangelist, but I think that's a reasonable take.

Use it don't use it, I don't care. As a self proclaimed creative, you have to acknowledge that it's a creative act to see how to use a source material. That act belongs to the artist. If I tell you how to use it then I am doing your work for you. The source is the source, what you do with it is up to you.

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ghettosynth wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 7:28 pm
wagtunes wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 3:53 pm Great. So what's next? What do I do with all this? Where does the creative process come in. I can think of maybe a few things but I'd like your take on it.

I'm keeping an open mind to be inspired.

So inspire me.
No, and this is important. That's not my job. I don't care what you use or don't use. I don't care how you create or what tools matter to you. I'm not a purist or an evangelist and if you're reading me that way then you're missing my message. When I first encountered Suno the use cases were obvious to me, as were the limitations regarding both creativity and artifact quality. I don't mean that I thought about it for a while and it became obvious, I mean that they were blindingly obvious.

Perhaps that is a function of my own path, what I've studied, what I've created, who knows. However, just as I refuse to be a Linux evangelist or a DAW evangelist, I refuse to be an AI evangelist. I don't think that people should use it. The less that you and everyone else uses it, the better chance that there is for RAM prices to come back down to sanity and the better chance there is that I can buy more hardware at sane prices to use even more local AI as a work and creativity partner. Ok, that's tongue in cheek for those not following at home, RAM prices are not coming down for a while whether individuals use it or not.

Ok, I used to be a Native Instruments evangelist, not any more. I'm still a Urs Heckman evangelist, but I think that's a reasonable take.

Use it don't use it, I don't care. As a self proclaimed creative, you have to acknowledge that it's a creative act to see how to use a source material. That act belongs to the artist. If I tell you how to use it then I am doing your work for you. The source is the source, what you do with it is up to you.

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Okay, fair enough. So let me ask you a different question. You obviously use it yourself. What do you get out of it?

And before you tell me that I'm just trying to get you to answer my first question, let me tell you what I can see using it for.

1. Taking the stems and maybe creating loops from them to trigger at various parts of whatever song I decide to come up with.

2. Taking the vocal and maybe creating backing vocals from it using Audimee so I can get different voices without having to upload my own vocal with all its pitch problems.

3. Converting the audio to MIDI and replacing the sounds Suno gives me with my own "better" sounds.

4. Creating different variations of the song and then mashing them together to create a unique arrangement.

Okay, I'm not a brainless robot. I can think on my own. I was hoping maybe you'd give me a suggestion that I wouldn't think of. I didn't think that was such a terrible thing to ask. But since you don't want to give me that info, fine. I'll survive.

If the shoe was on the other foot, I would tell you what I would do with Suno. In fact, I just did.

One last thing. I find it strange that you wish people would not use Suno so that RAM prices would go down when you yourself use Suno. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that.

Anyway, you know what? You don't have to answer my question. I don't need your help. I used to think this forum was a place where we helped each other.

Obviously, that isn't always the case.

I won't bother you again.

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