KVR Audio

torhan · Post by **torhan** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:44 pm

http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/det ... sku=EW-164

32 GB!

$995
Maybe this could replace my Trinity rack?

torhan · Post by **torhan** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:22 pm

Was reading its pdf manual...it says they will also be releasing a hardward rack version of this too...interesting...I think

ahja · Post by **ahja** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:31 pm

Certainly sounds nice, and yes, very interesting that they will release a hardware version of this... I can't even imagine how much a hardware version of this would cost.

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:36 pm

Wow!

Maybe my JV2080 will need to find a new home finally.

Devon

Joseph Burrell · Post by **Joseph Burrell** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:17 pm

You have to at least admire their marketing scheme. Selling hacked up versions of old libraries with 'new' programming for a cool G. I should take lessons from them.

I just wonder how viable its going to be on an instrument by instrument basis. At roughly 204 MB per instrument I wonder how much programming there is as apposed to straight samples. GM certainly needs an overhaul but why in the hell does everything they release cost so much? Eh, the same could be said for most music products though.

Course, I'm a Garritan fanboy so my opinion isn't worth the time it took me to type it.

advaya · Post by **advaya** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:46 pm

Neat... but what? only 32gigs? Kids stuff!

Probably take like 3 days to install the thing! Some of those MP3 demos sound rather nice though... might be something to invest in. I just wish I liked Kompakt a little more, though admittedly, I haven't really used it all that much... Maybe its better than I know...

Well, 87 days of fasting oughta be enough to afford such a beast...

Cheers.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:07 pm

I say: f**k it!
Shouldn't need 32 gigs for such a thing.
Sampler programmers are getting quite lazy these days, apparently assuming everybody's got streaming samplers and several terabytes of space.

Another proprietary sucker too - lousy.

chrissill31 · Post by **chrissill31** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:14 pm

Well they got the name right and thats a start...

32 gigs is f**king colossal

And so is the price...

Too much for me im afraid

3*s · Post by **3*s** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:25 pm

wow. Think it would be too much to ask for a demo?

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:30 pm

Considering 250 gig drives are as low as $115, 32 gigs ain't all that big.

We don't know the extend of the articulations, or instruments or much details about it. Hard to judge if 32 gigs is 'too much' until we have more info.

It's strange though, I'm of the school that 'bigger usually is better', and rarely proven wrong in accordance with my tastes. For example, I've rarely heard a piano that's under 850 megs that actually sounded good to my ears, unless it was hardware. Interesting that people bitch about in the opposite direction that it's now too big.

Devon

torhan · Post by **torhan** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:14 pm

I almost bought the Kompakt crossgrade, because it offered a fairly wide selection of instruments. I think that was like 2GB for $100. So this being 16 times the size for only 10 times the price...kinda makes it a value.

My girlfriend wasn't too shocked when I told her about this one -- she understood my logic

Hewitt Huntwork · Post by **Hewitt Huntwork** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:31 pm

When I first joined KvR in June of '03, I worte what was intended to be a funny post for a fictional plugin called Ten-Gallon (the server barfed and the fictional post was lost - probably for the best).

The joke was that it was a plugin devoted exclusively to closed hi-hat samples (open hats available in a future plug

), and featured every hat ever to appear in a recording. As part of my joke, I picked a size (16 Gb) that I thought would be far too huge to be taken seriously.

Now, in the 18 intervening months, we've seen products match and double (DFHS, and now this) what I once considered an absurd amount of data! How young and naive I was!

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:45 pm

Come on, 32 gigs isn't the biggest. EWQL Platinum is 65 gigs, and VSL Complete is 238 gigs. Now that's a lot of samples.

Devon

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:46 pm

Thing is, sample library programmers simply don't seem to care about setting proper looppoints anymore.
To me it seems they're trying to justify this with better "more natural" quality. Which, in some cases actually makes sense (recreating the decay of, say, a grand with some more or less simple amp envelope IS tough indeed), in other cases it's just sheer laziness. Almost every synth sound I've came across (apart from ones using heaviest modulations or being truly weird that is) could be looped properly.

Sure, as a sample library developer this is just the easiest thing to do - setting and adjusting looppoints properly IS a true pain in the ass sometimes.
But then, people should admit it's like that instead of telling people things such as "look, you're getting 1986732573 terabytes of samples from us whereas other companies only offer 300MB for the same price - so our product MUST be better".

Just have a look at the new Hollowsun collection. Brilliant synth captures with excellent loop points. No need for streaming or new harddisks.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:48 pm

DevonB wrote:Come on, 32 gigs isn't the biggest. EWQL Platinum is 65 gigs, and VSL Complete is 238 gigs. Now that's a lot of samples.

Sure - but these are aiming at quite something else.

Quantum Leap Colossus -- yikes!